Not sure what to do in this spot with QQ
Join Date: Oct 2019
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Villain (53.6BB) open to 2BB UTG, UTG +1 folds.
Hero (50.62BB) 3 bets to 7.5BB QcQd UTG+2
Folds back to villain who 4 bets to 17.23BB, hero calls.
Flop is Ad 4s 8h (36.92BB) - villain checks, hero checks back
Turn is 9h - villain checks, hero bets 14BB
River is 7s (64.92BB)- villain check, hero?? had about 19BB behind
My thoughts: what does he 4 bet UTG here that I could either beat at showdown or get to fold to a river jam? I was thinking only thing I beat in that range would be JJ or TT and I don't know if better would ever fold. Any thoughts are appreciated!
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 159
Depending on other factors, I think I'd most likely just check here - and thereby keep my tournament hopes alive with my remaining 19BB. That's because I suspect villain has either KK, or an A with a worry-some kicker - and that if you shove, he's likely to call with either of those two hands with the pot at that time offering him 3.5:1 odds. But I'm kind of a newbie fish, so what do I know?
Join Date: Jul 2020
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4 bet range is ultra strong here since you are both EP. I would give him normally qq+,Ak,and when he is a good player he might have sometimes bluff like A5s/A4s whitch i am not sure about if we want to use them Ep vs Ep. If it is a weak player he maybe have sometimes JJ or TT but i doubt it's often. Otf you are just crushed so i x back. Ott you have to decide what you want to accomplish. If you want to attack his weaker hands like KK,QQ or A5s(if he got those which i doubt)you are attacking just 1Combo of Queens and 6 of Kings. And with KK he blocks Ak heavily witch is what beats him from youre call 4bet range. So i would just give up and x behind and hope that he overplayed JJ or TT. If you decide to bluff though because you think he can fold KK here because he defend to less you have to go all in otr because you you have to put full pressure on him. Just betting once accomplish nothing because he will call always once with KK,QQ
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Originally Posted by jaaabon
4 bet range is ultra strong here since you are both EP. I would give him normally qq+,Ak,and when he is a good player he might have sometimes bluff like A5s/A4s whitch i am not sure about if we want to use them Ep vs Ep. If it is a weak player he maybe have sometimes JJ or TT but i doubt it's often. Otf you are just crushed so i x back. Ott you have to decide what you want to accomplish. If you want to attack his weaker hands like KK,QQ or A5s(if he got those which i doubt)you are attacking just 1Combo of Queens and 6 of Kings. And with KK he blocks Ak heavily witch is what beats him from youre call 4bet range. So i would just give up and x behind and hope that he overplayed JJ or TT. If you decide to bluff though because you think he can fold KK here because he defend to less you have to go all in otr because you you have to put full pressure on him. Just betting once accomplish nothing because he will call always once with KK,QQ
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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The hand that makes the most sense for him to have is KK. What else would he be four betting with? You checked the flop, and made a reasonable bet on the turn. He calls that, but he checks AGAIN on the river.
So it seems like he doesn't like his hand that much, but he liked it enough it preflop and to call a turn bet. Smells like KK to me, maybe QQ, TT, JJ. Would he do it with a weak ace? I don't think a jam is enough to push him off his hand. I think you check and hope for the best.
Join Date: Apr 2020
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5 bet shove pre and pray he has AK or worse (not AA or KK) and he calls and you hold and now have a 100BB stack. if he does have AA or KK pray that you suck out to double up.