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04-17-2018 , 06:43 AM

miguelin43

adept

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 820

Hi guys

Villain is 40/12 , nice passive fish.

As he is showing so much interest on the pot i assume i dont have much FE...is anybody raising OTT here or we just call ?

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $1.80 Buy-in (50/100 blinds, 10 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37933479

MP2: 12,625 (126.3 bb)
Hero (MP3): 9,703 (97 bb)
CO: 10,939 (109.4 bb)
BTN: 10,580 (105.8 bb)
SB: 10,739 (107.4 bb)
BB: 12,079 (120.8 bb)
UTG+2: 7,957 (79.6 bb)
MP1: 6,904 (69 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 9

UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls 100, MP2 calls 100, Hero calls 100, 2 folds, SB completes, BB checks

Flop: (580) 2

(5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets 389, Hero calls 389, 3 folds

Turn: (1,358) J

(2 players)
MP2 bets 976, Hero ?

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04-17-2018 , 08:26 AM

Darth_Maul

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 4,433

I think I'm raising here. If the spade falls you might not get any more chips out of him so let's get some in now.

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04-19-2018 , 02:45 PM

mttplayer

banned

Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 197

yeah im raising turn here too.

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04-19-2018 , 05:11 PM

ThinMints7

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 185

Raise OTT. Good hand to bluff OTR if we miss.

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04-19-2018 , 06:24 PM

streetwalkincheeta

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 5,132

Passive fish bets flop 5 way and barrels big. Call turn.

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04-19-2018 , 10:37 PM

Strappz

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 656

Although the OESD + FD looks pretty sexy I don't think I'm raising the turn. You still have ten high and it's possible you could be drawing to a worse flush some percentage of the time. With a passive opponent betting with four players to deal with his range should be pretty strong on a board that nails a limper's range. If you're up against a set, two pair or higher flush you could have some dirty outs. Also you're in position so if you improve on the river you're guaranteed to get a value bet in.

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04-20-2018 , 08:56 AM

Darth_Maul

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 4,433

All true but a loose passive fish will also have lots of weaker made hands that he would be betting (A8/A6/A2/K8s/K6s/K2s...some backdoor hearts like T8hh/98hh etc).

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04-20-2018 , 11:05 AM

nomalice

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 1,651

I'm isolating pre to 700

as played calling turn

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04-23-2018 , 04:31 AM

Strappz

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 656

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Originally Posted by Darth_Maul

All true but a loose passive fish will also have lots of weaker made hands that he would be betting (A8/A6/A2/K8s/K6s/K2s...some backdoor hearts like T8hh/98hh etc).

I think a passive player is more likely to call bets than place them with most of the range you listed here. Especially five ways. He's definitely not barreling 6x/2x on a turn J.

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04-23-2018 , 07:12 AM

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miguelin43

adept

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 820

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Originally Posted by Strappz

I think a passive player is more likely to call bets than place them with most of the range you listed here. Especially five ways. He's definitely not barreling 6x/2x on a turn J.

I agree with this. A fishy passive player betting so straightforward (twice) means big hand , that's why I was "shy" raising the turn...

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