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Old 07-28-2010, 08:33 AM   #1
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Need some 180man pro help

Hey guys,

I haven't played a single 180man for over 6 months now. I don't really intend to play them in the future either, but I was recently hired by a training site and I promised to make them some 180man videos and do some 180man coaching too along with the regular MTT stuff. I need some really quick revision as my first 180man coaching is due in a week. Where are the best 180man vids at the moment? If someone could point out the *best* out there it'd be great so I wouldn't have to take time going through them all. I think the only 180man vids I ever watched were CR ones and I wasn't very impressed.

Also if someone who's very good at these would like to rail me play a few of these and remind me of all the ICM stuff I've forgotten, I'd be glad to return the favour with some private MTT coaching.
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Old 07-28-2010, 08:50 AM   #2
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Old 07-28-2010, 08:50 AM   #3
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Also if someone who's very good at these would like to rail me play a few of these and remind me of all the ICM stuff I've forgotten, I'd be glad to return the favour with some private MTT coaching.
So let me get this straight. You want someone to 'remind' you how to play 180 man tourneys and in favor you will coach them back what you have learned from them? Sounds like a great favor. HAHA
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Old 07-28-2010, 09:01 AM   #4
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Re: Need some 180man pro help

If you're making a video, I think you should focus on what I think are the three most important skills required in 180mans

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Old 07-28-2010, 09:04 AM   #5
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Old 07-28-2010, 09:08 AM   #6
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So let me get this straight. You want someone to 'remind' you how to play 180 man tourneys and in favor you will coach them back what you have learned from them? Sounds like a great favor. HAHA
You would be so lucky to have Chuck coach you, you flipping dork.
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Old 07-28-2010, 09:14 AM   #7
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Re: Need some 180man pro help

Pay me $100 an hour and I will substitute for you.
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Old 07-28-2010, 09:16 AM   #8
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You would be so lucky to have Chuck coach you, you flipping dork.
That has no bearing on the fact that in principal what he is saying is: Give me some gold coins and I will return the favor by handing the same coins back to you.

please continue being the glorifying out crier though
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Old 07-28-2010, 09:23 AM   #9
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So let me get this straight. You want someone to 'remind' you how to play 180 man tourneys and in favor you will coach them back what you have learned from them? Sounds like a great favor. HAHA
No, I just need someone to guide me through the ICM stuff again as it's been too long. I'm pretty good at MTTs though and I'd probably have a lot to give for some aspiring MTTer who's better than me at 180mans.
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Old 07-28-2010, 09:24 AM   #10
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Pay me $100 an hour and I will substitute for you.
Deal, but how fluent is your Finnish?
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Old 07-28-2010, 09:27 AM   #11
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Deal, but how fluent is your Finnish?
The word "shove" shouldnt be too hard to learn
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Old 07-28-2010, 09:36 AM   #12
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Deal, but how fluent is your Finnish?
in which case....

1) työntää
2) ???
3) voitto

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Old 07-29-2010, 02:51 AM   #13
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Re: Need some 180man pro help

i can teach you 4.40 and 10+1 180s and charge $1337/h
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Old 07-29-2010, 04:16 AM   #14
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Re: Need some 180man pro help

Lipofunds vid(s) i would have thought... not sure if it's still available though or if it's any good as i havn't seen it i know at least one exists though... if you find it let me know i'll have a look at it too ...
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Old 07-29-2010, 04:39 AM   #15
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Re: Need some 180man pro help

I recommend you Pimpindonks videos at Sharkscopers.com.

They are good and helped me a lot (even though he plays 45 and 90 turbo's) and obviously something like
Shaundeeb's Beginner Guide to 180s from 2 +2 Anthology of MTTs Wisdom:

http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/show...9209807&page=0




Maybe it sounds funny but help tutorial section from SnG Power Tools v1.22. This is crucial and sufficient poker theory knowledge to play 180s turbos IMHO after the early stage which you can even not play with not so much lost in money EV I guess or play like in standard 70-100 bb cash game. Pushing always when jumping under 10 bb even with not so well-ballanced and clarified ranges and pressure at bubbles on people wanted to cash something (18 players, 10 players and 4, 3, 2 players left bubbles respectively) is something most important.

SitNgo Wizard will get you in the right way of shove holdem foldem.

Psychology: You play for a win or the first three places, 10-18 is not for you. Payout structure is good (30, 20 11 per cent, and nickles for other places) to help you keep pushing and make them cry

So remember: All to do is just keep pushing on so good thing is listing to this song during play:

Freddie Cruger Aka Red Astaire - Pushing On (Feat. Linn)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTNkfMOi8e0

You can PM me if you want
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Old 07-29-2010, 05:17 AM   #16
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Re: Need some 180man pro help

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Old 07-29-2010, 05:22 AM   #17
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Re: Need some 180man pro help

dude you are ******ed. The payout structure of a 180 is less flat than that of the regular tournaments on pokerstars, meaning the "icm" for 180s you are rusty on, is in fact more important in your main game than 180s.

Icm is just a way of conceptualizing the diversion between Cev and $ev that exists in all tournaments.

Seriously how can you be hired as a coach for a site and not even be able to fake having the knowledge. All you had to do was make a ****ty video like everyone else and not be so incredibly stupid on a poker forum.

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Old 07-29-2010, 05:25 AM   #18
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Re: Need some 180man pro help

180s are just tournaments do not go searching for 180 videos because they will be made by people who grind 180s

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Old 07-29-2010, 05:26 AM   #19
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Re: Need some 180man pro help

just make a bunch of **** up and make it sound good...isn't that how you got the job to begin with?
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Old 07-29-2010, 07:14 AM   #20
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Old 07-29-2010, 07:27 AM   #21
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Re: Need some 180man pro help

Yo, I see you are in an interesting situation. You wouldn't be in this spot if you trained properly. Me and DJ Pauly D keep a strict regiment of GYM>>TAN>>LAUNDRY. If you wanna meet up I am in Miami *****! I don't know much about 180mans but I have had my share of 180women NAHM SAYIN?

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Old 07-29-2010, 07:50 AM   #22
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dude you are ******ed. The payout structure of a 180 is less flat than that of the regular tournaments on pokerstars, meaning the "icm" for 180s you are rusty on, is in fact more important in your main game than 180s.

Icm is just a way of conceptualizing the diversion between Cev and $ev that exists in all tournaments.

Seriously how can you be hired as a coach for a site and not even be able to fake having the knowledge. All you had to do was make a ****ty video like everyone else and not be so incredibly stupid on a poker forum.

omfg u jieopwangirwjw4ngepirojsgo[5wt4er554wg54g

Yeah but I wasn't exactly hired for doing SNG videos, it's just that the site I'm working for doesn't have SNG instructors and as I have at least a little bit of background in them I promised to help them out in that area as well. I made it extremely clear in the interview that I'm strictly an MTTer but if they need low stakes SNG help I can make a couple of videos at some point. I'm just trying to make sure I'm not making any mistakes in the videos for as good content as possible, and as pretty much every good 180man player in the world is 2+2 I didn't see anything wrong with asking here.

They messed this up big time as for some reason they've made my first coaching session be 180mans, which is going to be railed by a bunch of angry Finnish morons led by ChopSuey. This is due in a few days and the last time I played in a 180man was in December so what am I supposed to do except ask for help? The other option would be to not do my research and hope it turns out to be ok, I'm just trying to do this the right way.
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Old 07-29-2010, 01:26 PM   #23
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so you're basically asking for videos to plagiarize from?
if you can make videos for tournaments you can make videos for 180 mans, wtf
you realize 'sng' just means whether or not the tournament is scheduled? just pretend it's a 100r full of ******s...
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Old 07-29-2010, 01:38 PM   #24
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moving this to mtt strat seems like a pretty huge waste of potential.
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Old 07-29-2010, 01:38 PM   #25
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I would recommend HITTHEPANDAS vid's on tournamentpokeredge.com or TMoney's on pokersavvyplus.com
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