Hi guys

I just dont know how to play these kind of hands (77-TT) with deep or 70-80 BB neither preflop or postflop , some help needed as i am losing a ton of pots and always the same issue : how do we play this hands OOP, even when flop is perfect like in the hand i post here

Here´s an example

V is 17/10 in 160 hands ; 3bets 0% in BTN (13)
My image : somewhat loose in these early stages of MTT

Some line check is needed here please.... if i call cbet pot is really big but i still dont know where i am at....

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $4.50 Buy-in (50/100 blinds, 10 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
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SB: 4,158 (41.6 bb)
BB: 11,038 (110.4 bb)
UTG+2: 8,786 (87.9 bb)
Hero (MP1): 10,758 (107.6 bb)
MP2: 12,314 (123.1 bb)
MP3: 15,247 (152.5 bb)
CO: 9,632 (96.3 bb)
BTN: 9,820 (98.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T T
UTG+2 raises to 222, Hero calls 222, MP2 folds, MP3 calls 222, CO raises to 1,100, 4 folds, Hero calls 878, MP3 calls 878

Flop: (3,752) 3 5 7 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks, CO bets 2,300 , Hero ???

I call BS. You don't know exactly, but you have to have at least an educated guess. He 3bet an EP raise. He's got generally tight stats. What does that tell you about his range?

Premium hands 100% - JJ+ and AK.

Possibly some strong hands - TT/99/AQ. (Small chance, but the probability> 0).

Probably some bluff range. (Maybe Axs, maybe suited connector types, maybe complete junk like 92o) (Based on his stats, balance is the upper level limit of his bluff range, but I would seriously consider he is value heavy more often than balanced).

So in essence, you are most likely crushed by his value range and could still be ahead of AK possibly AQ and other air bluffs he may c-bet.

Can you raise for value? No.

Do you want to fold yet? No.

Can you raise as a bluff and make better hands fold? No.

The worst case: He has JJ+ and AK. So you are currently crushed by 24 hands in his range and are ahead of 16 hands in his range.

160 hands might be enough of a sample to take a look at his c-bet %. If it seems on the low side fold can be considered, because he might easilly c-back AK and be 100% unbalanced toward value when he cbets 3 way for that sizing on that flop and I'd assume he has 0 bluff range pre given his stats.

Mostly c-c though.

I think my issue in this hand is stack sizes: if i call the cbet i feel i am playing for ALL my stack :

If i call cbet, roughly one PSB left and we hate a lot of cards OTT : A K Q J (if he is 3betting with some weird blocker like KJs,QJs) ....so :

1.- If a non broadway comes OTT and V shoves..we just call and be done with it?
2.- If a broadway comes OTT and V shoves...what do we do? Calling seems really risky here !!

Hope this is not a dumb question but..... If we are going to fold almost any turn why are we calling OTF? We invested 1/3 of our stack size just for check OTT/reevaluate?

I don't think villain ever has bluffs in his range. EP open, 2 calls, squeeze from a player with 10 pfr in 160 hands and no 3b in 13 opportunities. However, I agree that his range includes combos of AK/AQ that you're ahead of.

The interesting thing about this spot is that you actually have the range advantage on this flop and there are lots of turn cards he doesn't want to see. Sure you don't want to see an A/K/Q, but virtually every other card in the deck helps your range. It does mean that you might have to be prepared to bluff the turn or river, however. Think about it, given his strong preflop range, how happy will he be to see a heart or card from 2-8 on the turn? This is assuming the other guy folds, of course.

That depends on the opponents post flop aggression factor and turn c-bet stats. If he has a high AF, like 2+ and turn c-bet of 60%+, you have to just call it off.

If his AF> 1 and his turn c-bet is about 30%, you can easily fold as he only double barrels value.

In the middle, flip a coin basically, but I would lean toward folding the lower those stats go.

Not excited about calling.