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Originally Posted by Paklu
There is no big difference between normal MTTs and fast ones. However turbos and hypers have a lot more play 0-10bb deep and 10-20bb deep so strengths in short stack play that should be in tournament professionals arsenal get even more important. I feel that many recreational players enter turbos with different attitude than regular tournaments. There is more early game reraising and big all in bets with weak ranges, so I would call recreational players 100bb reshove at first level looser than in normal speed tournament.
I personally have won more than 500k$ in turbo games or games equivalent to current major sites turbo speed so they are potentially good for making money and being a winning player in turbos/ hypers will mean you get to play high volume and get less swings. I recommend playing lower minimum (and average) stake the faster tournaments get. If average tournament duration for a player is 15 minutes (some hyper turbos), you get to play 8 of them in 2 hours what might be average duration for a normal speed MTT run so you get 8 times more volume and you can make equal results in 8 times lower buyin level, should you have same ROI there. While 55$ hyper may be hard to beat, that game has similar potential than 530 high roller game, which is obviously high level.
Thank you for the insight and feedback, this is super helpful. Sounds like push/fold ranges come more into play since blinds move faster (and when I think of recent hyper turbos approaching the bubble even the average stack size is like 8-12bb). Interesting about being looser earlier (I assume factoring in most allow X amt of rebuys?) I do see some wild all ins in these.
That's awesome you've won half a mil playing these, unfortunately I'm on a smaller state regulated site so there's a few a day but def not huge volume (although prizes not bad for <2.5 hrs from start to heads up). I think right now turbos range from $3-$50 (with some occasional special $100+ running) ones and hyper turbos $3-$20(with some occasional $50+ running)
I didn't think to consider the variance being lower (I would have assumed higher) but i guess makes sense if they run faster and plenty of players shove early bust and don't re-enter then you can reach final tables quicker and open new tournies sooner).