Last 7 of 318 in a special weekend long live tournament at my local casino (Bristol) tonight.

£570 locked up (6. £720 5. £880 4. £1170 3. £1940 2. £2900 1. £4470)

40k/80k with a 10k ante, a few minutes in to the 30 minute level. 7.85m in play inc reported surrendered chips with an avg of 1.12m.

Folded to the Hero on the button with JT and 650k after the ante. Very aggressive SB is second in chips, around 2m, and the BB, who's tighter, is playing about 900k.


With 190k in the pot before any action and many unchallenged wins with raises and shoves, I feel I can't and shouldn't lay this down with the strongest of connectors.

I didn't consider the call, which I suppose could be viable(?), but pondered the raise or the shove for about 30 seconds... which, notably I think, was much longer than my 7 successful previous shoves at the FT, which all occurred within 5 seconds of me looking at my hand (though they were all stronger than JTs).

Noting that I'd probably shown weakness by pondering for such a relatively long time and that, unlike all before (save for one SB open shove), I'm now in an obvious stealing position, I decided to bet 200k. I thought that I could possibly lay it down if I'm shoved on and that I'd quite like to see a flop.


SB folds but the BB shoves.

I then realise that with just 450k behind, I don't like the idea of folding afterall.

450k to win 1.04m, 2.3/1... I just need 30% right?

But then why did I just raise to begin with, if I'm not going to fold?

Or does the possibility of seeing a flop counter this, as I would be more willing to reluctantly fold post-flop?


What are your opinions?... Does the raise have merit given the stacks and ICM, or should I definitely be shoving for the max fold equity?

Thoughts appreciated. Cheers

Assuming you are not last in chips this is probably an ICM fold. If you are last in chips its a very easy shove

With 8bb you shouldn't be thinking of options other than shove or fold - in this case pretty sf shove unless stack sizes are really weird.
You need to tell us all the stack sizes in ICM situations

Instantly shoving. Would fold if there were like one or two blind spots at the table.

Plug it into icmizer to get your answer.

Thanks. I couldn't believe I hadn't shoved when I realised I'm not folding but was wondering if this was a result orientated regret.

It was live so I don't have accurate stacks but I'd guess at:

Hero 650
SB 1.7m
BB 900
Utg 900
Utg1 2.0m
HJ 900
CO 800

BB shoved with 44 (no ) so I was the favourite to pick up a 1.4m pot but I lost a lot of fold equity to take down 190k uncontested.

I went to get a drink and returned to the table 10 minutes later, which was still 6 handed, and asked the guy if he would've folded had I shoved. He said yes but I'm not sure I believe that would've actually been the case.