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06-17-2018 , 05:43 PM
partypoker - 700/1400 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+1: 104,262 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
CO: 97,040 (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
BTN: 123,132 (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 16.72, 3Bet Preflop: 6.50, Hands: 291)
Hero (SB): 76,971
BB: 82,524 (VPIP: 24.36, PFR: 20.53, 3Bet Preflop: 9.84, Hands: 157)
UTG: 133,025 (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
UTG+1: 66,575 (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
MP: 87,453 (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 100.00, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 3)

8 players post ante of 175, Hero posts SB 700, BB posts BB 1,400

Pre Flop: (pot: 3,500) Hero has J J

fold, fold, MP raises to 3,360, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 10,500, fold, MP calls 7,140

Flop: (23,800, 2 players) 2 3 Q
Hero checks, MP bets 15,946, Hero calls 15,946

Turn: (55,692, 2 players) T
Hero checks, MP bets 60,832 and is all-in, Hero ?

Do we like the 3bet size preflop?

Do we like call or fold vs. unknown?
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06-17-2018 , 11:31 PM
Hi
As played I would fold turn given stack sizes
I would call against a guy with a much lower stack size given that he would be committed calling the 3bet and much more likely to pull a move

I'm just curious what is your betting range OTF?
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06-18-2018 , 12:21 AM
Like idk what the right move is here but the player in question has played all 3 hands since being moved. I reckon we go with it and accept we're up against a flush draw a pretty good amount of the time. We don't have the J of clubs either which is in our favor. Is this player really getting called by worse when he bets here often? 2/3 pot on flop and pot turn? I don't think this is for value often.
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06-18-2018 , 06:35 AM
for my looks like a 2pair like AA,KK,QQ for valium and a flush draw bluff.as he raise 3X from MP could be ATc,KTc,JTc,AJc,i think you should call because looks like this villain has been played previous every 3 hands agressively.
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06-18-2018 , 03:16 PM
i sight fold.... not sure what range to assign him althought

Preflop a little bit more? Like 11.700 ?

We lose vs AQ and TT and are ahead vs KJs , KJs and AJs ; not sure he traps with AA KK or AKs
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06-18-2018 , 07:53 PM
Preflop is fine.

Flop I pretty much always CB after 3-betting pre, otherwise it looks exactly like it is: you don't like the flop. I would basically CB my entire range there.
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06-21-2018 , 11:02 AM
Yeah i have trouble with which hands to check back on. I find some value in checking to induce which kind of voids the OP though?
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06-21-2018 , 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ThePokerBot
Yeah i have trouble with which hands to check back on. I find some value in checking to induce which kind of voids the OP though?
Generally players will defend against 3b out of position with:

1) Hands too good to fold but they're a bit worried about your 3b range (like TT/JJ;

2) Hands looking to crack your 3b range (small-med pairs);

3) Hands that flop really well (QJs/QTs/JTs etc)

4) Some other hands players either don't like tossing or are unsure how to play (Axs, AJ/AQ)

5) AA/KK and don't want to scare you away with a strong 4b.

So I would check behind when I either flop a monster (3b JJ, flop comes J42 rainbow) or on flops that are great for villain given the above. So flops like (assuming I 3b JJ):

- AK8 with flush draw and I don't have a blocker;
- 986, especially with a flush draw and I don't have a blocker;
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