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10-02-2020 , 06:05 PM
888Poker, $20 + $2 - Hold'em No Limit - 1,750/3,500 (435 ante) - 9 players

UTG: 82,037 (23 bb)
UTG+1: 86,354 (25 bb)
MP: 129,660 (37 bb)
MP+1: 146,285 (42 bb)
LP: 102,715 (29 bb)
CO: 167,509 (48 bb)
BU (Hero): 86,080 (25 bb)
SB: 357,523 (102 bb)
BB: 114,177 (33 bb)

Pre-Flop: (9,165) Hero is BTN with J K
5 players fold, CO raises to 10,500, Hero calls 10,500, 2 players fold

Flop: (30,165) T A 7 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: (30,165) Q (2 players)
CO bets 18,550, Hero calls 18,550

River: (67,265) Q (2 players)
CO bets 138,024 (all-in), Hero calls 56,595 (all-in)

Total pot: 180,455

Showdown:
CO shows A A (a full house, Aces full of Queens)

I think the call on river was right,perhaps I played poorly postflop.
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10-02-2020 , 10:07 PM
I'm more worried about Q10 or Q7 suited here then Aces. Kinda an interesting one cos he can shove KQ and QJ for value but you block that, but he might also shove Q9, Q8 suited. I'm thinking this could be a disclipined fold here, just cos there are so few bluff combos and you block some of his value shoves that are worse hands then yours. Interested to see what others think.
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10-02-2020 , 10:38 PM
I am not laying down a turned straight on a calico board when board pairs on the river for a pot size bet. Not in a 20.00 tournament. I probably shove turn after 18k bet by villain.
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10-02-2020 , 10:49 PM
I like the way OP played this on every street. Not shoving turn on rainbow board.
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10-03-2020 , 04:28 AM
just gotta fold bro he could have quads :/
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10-03-2020 , 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by deuceblocker
I like the way OP played this on every street. Not shoving turn on rainbow board.
Passively calling and losing your tournament life to a river shove may be a play that you like. I would rather make V decide if he is goin to call off when 25% to fill up and behind on the turn when he bets an amount that pot commits me. Not that it matters, he is calling w top set anyways...
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10-03-2020 , 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by jjjou812
Passively calling and losing your tournament life to a river shove may be a play that you like. I would rather make V decide if he is goin to call off when 25% to fill up and behind on the turn when he bets an amount that pot commits me. Not that it matters, he is calling w top set anyways...
He is not folding anything on the turn that can beat us with any river card. We have position and can shove the river. Might as well give him a chance to bet or shove the river.
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10-03-2020 , 12:55 PM
Sorry for the sarcastic reply, was inebriated last night and it was far funnier in my head, here's a serious reply

Pre: Your combo mostly jams BTN vs. CO at ~20-30bb (monker)

Flop: check seems good, your combo prob. mixes some amount of betting but I would assume KQ/KJ majority check

Turn: somewhat insane that people are actually suggesting jamming over OOP's bet here? I mean you'd have to give OOP 0 credit for ever bluffing a river card, yourself an absolute mile of credit for ever, ever having bluffs to the line--to say nothing of the fact that your dog must have died that morning to a very unlucky meteor strike for you to be that paranoid of being sucked out on (for christ's sake there isn't even a flush draw, not that the presence of one would have IP jamming turn with KJ)

River: c'mon now
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10-03-2020 , 02:23 PM
I would be inclined to jam the turn if there were one or two flush draws out there because it looks more like we could be semi bluffing and if it hits you might not get paid off.

And also there is the possibility that Villain hits his flush draw that showed up on the turn (so essentially by not raising the turn we give Villain a "free" card).

But in position with no flush draws on the board I just call the turn.

River has to be a call. We have under-repped our hand on the turn and the way it was played villain can have KQ/QJ. Probably not AQ or he would have bet the flop.
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