seeing later i saw i make a mistake raising so little,but the question is:
in this field of passives and tight players should i limp behind if i wanna play this hand or just fold?

I fold this hand here. Isolation is not working because :
1) J8s is mediocre hand
2) there are 4 players ahead. if one of them 3-bets, you are done. Look at BTN, he has 11BB stack, he will often shove.
3) your stack size is < 30BB, you need to preserve it for playing with better hands.
and limp...there are some situations when you can limp, but this is certainly not one of them.

You play too many hands pre king. Fold preflop. When you're not sure of ranges it's better to just play solid fundamental poker and not step out with marginal hands like this.

Fold. You can squeeze this hand from the BTN with a strong raise if you think people are limp/folding most of their range but that's about it (and this is a good way to chip up from 30BBs when chips are important if the table dynamic calls for the risk, people generally don't squeeze situations when they should be when stacks are smaller). This is a hand you can overlimp on the BTN when stacks are 80-100+ deep but even then you need to be careful. Lots of RIO situations with this hand when you're that deep. This is mostly a BB defend hand or a late opening hand more than anything else.

He isn't even on the btn tho.

This is a fold IMO especially from MP3, you're out of position and you only have 30BB definitely not profitable.

thanks for this advice.is because i'm playng micros based on the following table:



i don't know if you meet this but i see a lot of prós saying,if you follow this in micros you be winner on long term.maybe i shoudn't following letter because of diferent tournaments situations.

That chart is for opening ranges, it’s not telling you which hands to play from each position. It also doesn’t account for stack sizes which changes things. Overlimp ranges change because of RIO situations with people limping hands that crush a hand like J8s. If it folded to you in the CO and you raised J8s that’s a lot different than the situation you described.

I believe that the only situation when you actually can use charts in tournaments is non-icm push/fold scenarios. Otherwise each situation is unique and you have to take a ton of factors into account : your stack size, stack size of your opponents, table dynamics, opponents play style, etc. etc...no chart can help you in that..this is a little bit like chess
The good news is in that it's easier than chess and eventually you will be able to estimate the situation quickly and and make reasonable decision on whether to play a hand or not..I.e. you can see in this thread that everyone told you - fold this hand. I am pretty sure that no one thought more than several seconds about this decision, it's just obvious..

Always good to err on the side of aggression and try unconventional plays, but this is a fold. And IF you raise it you have to go much bigger. With 2 limpers I would go at least 250 or even 300 to make sure I get heads-up (or even take it down).

thanks for the explanation,i was doubt about that the situations who i can use this charts.
what is RIO?i don't know this abreviation in english.

right,later i saw this.i make the normal raise wich with this hand is so badly as play the hand by yourself as.

RIO is reverse implied odds. For example, when you have J8s and the flop is J64 and someone bets in front of you. You want to call because it's only $10 and get to showdown because you have top pair, but the reverse implied odds is dangerous because the hand isn't over yet and if your opponent holds a hand like KJ or QJ you keep losing money on future streets when they bet (and the bets will typically only get larger). The same applies with J8s when you flop a flush draw. You might be betting J8hh on a flop of Js5h2h thinking you're in great shape but you're getting called by someone with QJ and another player with Ah6h. That's about the worst RIO situation you can get stuck in.