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10-16-2020 , 08:13 AM
Hey insomnia666, no "offense", it was a real question. You said you don't judge and I don’t either. My questions on a forum are just plain and simple questions. Nothing to be interpreted no innuendos. I agree with you with the borderline decision. I do not gamble either late game. But when you bump into a difficult spot giving up to keep your stack size is not always an EV+ decision. And sometimes (well, in MTT a lot of times) late game you do not have ANY obvious EV+ spot and still you have to have a strategy of some sort when you are card dead and getting to the "next place" can bring you, even a little more of money. I could add that nowadays there are more and more PKO tournaments and that change again the dynamic of a tournament and the EV of a given spot. You think only of money ? Yes, me too. And, again no "offense", I'm sorry to say but money in a MTT is at the top. If, for example, you earn only half your buy-in in each tournament you play and your ITM is 30%, which is a high percentage BTW, you are losing money. It is mathematical, not my opinion.

Cheers mate

Have a nice one !

PS : @insomnia : because I am curious as a cat, can you tell me where do you play, which site or even share your sharkscope ? You can MP me if you prefer
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10-16-2020 , 05:20 PM
I am a SnG player , I play mainly for a leaderboards. Now in Bwin...I not give my acc name to anyone "unknown". Sorry...Bad experience...
I have a little experience in MTT, compared to the MTT players, who play for a living.

This -EV spots...Well, there are some -EV spots, when we are calling shove from BB. Or when we shove from UTG with short stack. But because the next hands. Next hands will be -EV (100% range). This is not really "-EV spots". This guy, which "made" HRC.... There is an option "5 hands in a future" . I can't explain this better. But this is not working. Imo...But still this guy... He is thinking about this. I don't know what happenned with this thing.
You just do some simple calculations. Also the FE matters. Let's say 5bb stack K9s UTG, well, cool, I am happy. Still this is "-EV spot"...

I can give you an advice. Use the trial for HRC. Change the ranges for the players. Let's say FT , you are on UTG. Different stacks. Different ranges than the default. Also for over call. Don't forget to use the ICM (the payout structure). If you do that for all 8 players behind you, you will see something "curious". I was shocked when I saw this for the first time. Long time ago...This is a "life changing" experience. You will see all the lies for the ICM. And I don't know why this guys in the forums, this "specialists", don't "waste" 5 min to see that. Because they don't play for a living...That's why...

Last edited by insomnia666; 10-16-2020 at 05:33 PM.
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10-16-2020 , 11:32 PM
I wish to show this. I did that many times. And everytime the same. Some coaches start to yelling at me. Many other people. А hysteria, hate...But in HRC the default range for call vs UTG shove (let's say 10bb) is JJ+, AK. And KK+ over call. But if you play $10 MTT, will be very different. No need to say that. We all know.

Simply with ICm very often to "do nothing" is equal or better compared to "do something". No edge...And the people don't want to believe in this. For obv reasons.

Last edited by insomnia666; 10-17-2020 at 12:01 AM.
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10-17-2020 , 12:02 AM
flop seems like a check back to me - flop favors our range but we don't have the type of hand we need to c-bet to protect, bluff with, or extract value.

OP I like your thought processes but I think V range is more polarized towards draws/2p+ IMO.
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10-24-2020 , 09:53 AM
If youre really deep in the tourney here, I would definitely consider checking back the flop as people rightly defend tighter due to ICM. With this in mind this flop actually smashes his defending range. Regardless I think we should be folding to his flop raise with this stack size- especially if ICM is a large factor.
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