Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - 125/250 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 15.34 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 4.35, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
MP: 58.22 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 24)
CO: 56.99 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 26.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
BTN: 30.48 BB (VPIP: 4.17, PFR: 4.17, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
SB: 27.83 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
Hero (BB): 51.07 BB

6 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.1 BB) Hero has K T

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2 BB, SB calls 1.5 BB, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (6.6 BB, 3 players) 5 K A
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (6.6 BB, 3 players) 5
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (6.6 BB, 3 players) J
SB checks, Hero bets 3.3 BB, BTN raises to 7 BB, fold, fold

BTN wins 13.2 BB

what do you think about all streets? In addition dou you have any calls here except 5x and QT?

Squeeze pre, I don't want to play KTo multiway here.

Don't bet river, there's no point.

Call the river raise. Your line is fos and any half decent player might think they can get you off it with a raise. Sure he flips over KJ every once in a while but has lots of air alot. He would prob semi bluff gutshots and draws on flop or turn. To me this looks alot like a low pp turned into a bluff correctly not folding if I bet. C/c better than bet/fold there but i like bet/call too

And bet the turn

How often do you see a small stakes player make a tiny x/r bluff on the river against 2 villains? I'd say just about never.

This. Pretty likely he shows up with QT here. Good aces bet flop and/or turn. Calling the river would be a bad play imo. Also, the bet on the river isn't that good because no better hands are folding, and there's probably very little that checks all the way through and decides to hero the river. Maybe 99 / 1010 from a player that decides it's likely a bluff after both previous streets get checked through?

don't you think we are missing value OTR from Jx,TT-88 type of hands that will check back river but call a bet?

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Doubt these hands would call too often given the AKJxx board. But regardless, the pot is pretty small and I'm not too concerned about trying to squeeze an extra 3bb out of villain in such a thin value spot.

I agree with Desp. We don't block any clubs and we block QT. Plus if his range is so polarized we should call since he doesn't have many nutted value hands. Like he can't have AA/KK, he likely bets his gutshot on the turn also.

Small stakes is filled with spew monkeys! Best advice is to keep you eyes on the line better than relying on blanket statements

When an occurrence is extremely unlikely you're better off ignoring it and playing by the rule rather than the exception.

Its not at all extremely unlikely though. Its more like quite possible. And youll never ever beat exceptional players thinking that way and ultimately will have trouble moving up stakes. There is a method to every madness at these stakes, you just have to start believing in them to see them.

I can't see villain not having it, still too cheap for valuable information for everyone on the table.
Never folding to that river sizing ever with hero's stack.

Not a fan of betting the turn fwiw. I probably end up calling out of curiosity though OTR

Edit: I should clarify, I think we do win enough of the time to justify a call here

I just don't see villain doing this on the river with a hand Hero beats. There are two opponents in the hand and he's invested virtually nothing up to this point. Why would he risk the chips to fight over such a small pot by making such a small x/r against 2 players?

I think this is way, way more likely to be a big hand desperately trying to squeeze some extra value.

Because hero looks weak and will prob fold on that scary board. This is literally how many small stakes spew monkies think! Just yesterday i was bluffed otr by a ss player just like this hand and he showe 6 high after. It happens more than you think! Assuming tht ssmtt players play in a uniform way is a classic mistake on this forum

Youre right but when you don't have a specific read on a player you have no choice but to treat them as a member of the general class of players at that level. Besides, it's also a mistake to make generalizations about players based on a recent experience that may actually be the exception rather than the norm.

This is either a very good bluff or nutted. Obvioualy small stakes mtt players are almost never running bluffs like this (this would be a -ev play in micro stakes so even winning, good players probably wouldn't do it), therefore pretty much never call as that would be spewwy.

It is not at all a -ev play to bluff here. OP folding is proof

Lol of course it would be, you think micro stakes players aren't snapping you off with any ace as well as a lot of worse hands?

Dont lol at me bruh....Their line doesnt have ace in it ... hand got checked through on 2 streets and finally one dude decides to take a stab at it with his weak hand. So a raise works alot here. OP only has to be correct 1/5 times here and given how the hand was played saying that he is never ahead here is erroneous and bad advice. And I cant stand bad advice...

If villain decided to take a stab after the flop and turn got checked through, he would lead the river. Look, nobody is saying this is NEVER a bluff; but it is highly, highly unlikely to be a bluff.

Op DID lead the river. So his range is full of stabs. So minraising it as a bluff is not a -ev move. It is actually the correct play with most hands with some showdown value that cant call here. And because OPs hand is at the top of the range that would take that line he has to call.

And again. Bet turn and if called check/call non-club rivers and c/f on clubs

Agree river is call, we getting 5-1 so he only needs to roll over air <20% of the time.
We only really lose to KJ and QT and he might bet flop/turn with those holdings. If he has an ace good for him, its horrendous if he checks it back twice multi-way.

We don't have much info on v's yet so im ok will calling pre rather then the squeeze for now.

Id proly bet turn myself, as played river id say x/c is our best option