Hello there!

I'd like have your thoughts on this hand.
I'm not sure about my play river where i decided to fold top pair 2nd kicker vs 3 barrel from preflop agressor.
(ps: sorry for the format, if you guys have advice to convert..)


Tournoi Pokerstars 'The Big 10 €, 25 000 € garantis'
Blindes : 60/120 ante 15 | 02 décembre 2018 - 19:44
[SB] Siège 5 : Joueur 5 (11.4k ) - 95 bb
[BB] Siège 6 : Joueur 6 (12k ) - 100 bb
[UTG] Siège 7 : Joueur 7 (9.7k ) - 81 bb
[UTG+1] Siège 8 : Joueur 8 (16.7k ) - 139 bb
[UTG+2] Siège 9 : Joueur 9 (9.8k ) - 81 bb
[UTG+3] Siège 1 : HERO (11k ) - 92 bb
[HJ] Siège 2 : Joueur 2 (12.7k ) - 106 bb
[CO] Siège 3 : Joueur 3 (11.1k ) - 93 bb
[BTN] Siège 4 : Joueur 4 (9.5k ) - 79 bb
*** BLINDS-ANTES ***
HERO : Pose l'ante 15
Joueur 2 : Pose l'ante 15
Joueur 3 : Pose l'ante 15
Joueur 4 : Pose l'ante 15
Joueur 5 : Pose l'ante 15
Joueur 6 : Pose l'ante 15
Joueur 7 : Pose l'ante 15
Joueur 8 : Pose l'ante 15
Joueur 9 : Pose l'ante 15
Joueur 5 : Pose la petite blinde 60
Joueur 6 : Pose la grosse blinde 120
*** PREFLOP ***K Q
Joueur 7 : Relance 240
Joueur 8 : Se couche
Joueur 9 : Se couche
HERO : Suit 240
Joueur 2 : Se couche
Joueur 3 : Se couche
Joueur 4 : Se couche
Joueur 5 : Suit 180
Joueur 6 : Suit 120
*** FLOP ***K 2 J
Joueur 5 : Parole
Joueur 6 : Parole
Joueur 7 : Mise 548
HERO : Suit 548
Joueur 5 : Se couche
Joueur 6 : Se couche
*** TURN ***K 2 J 6
Joueur 7 : Mise 1.1k
HERO : Suit 1.1k
*** RIVER ***K 2 J 6 4
Joueur 7 : Mise 2.2k
HERO : Se couche
Joueur 7 : Récupère sa mise 2.2k
Joueur 7 : Gagne 4.4k

Situation:
Early stage of a big 10e sunday donkament, i know nothing about utg (played 20/0 in 5h).

Préflop:
He minraise so i wouldnt say he's often nutsed here, aniway i don't see too much vallue in 3betting my hand here cause i prefer play postflop deep especially in donkaments. So i decided to call the minraise.

Flop:
Preflop agressor cbet in 3 players, i don't see any option but call here

Turn:
So that's the part when it could become tricky, if we replay the hand he did 2x préflop, 1/2 pot, 1/2 pot and he's not repping so much vallue hands? (AK, KJ maybe if he raise it, KK, JJ) while he could easily have some broadways, (AT, QJ, KTs) or medium pp (dont think he would 2 barrel them too often), but a hand like QQ, TT, 99 betting he dont know why..

So is they arguments for raising the turn here?

River:
Now we face the 3rd barrel, 1/2 pot again.. and i weakly folded
Dont think i beat any part of his vallue range here. But there is a lot off missdraws and we are on a 10e where people go sometimes crazy..
So is it too weak to fold this hand here or do you think it's the right move against unknown raise utg and 3 barrel? Also it's interesting to note he just made 2x, 1/2 pot, 1/2 pot, 1/2 pot.. sign of strength or bluffy line?

Thanks for reading and good luck at tables!

I prefer 3bet or fold preflop. As the hand played you let 2 people into the hand that otherwise would have likely folded if you 3 bet. This means that you lose equity. I think your also assuming an improper range for UTG because you have no info on him. With no info I'd assume any pocket pair and AJs+, AQo+ and maybe KQo or suited. Your best case scenario against this range is flipping or barely ahead. That being said, I know it hurts, but I would likely fold here because KQ isn't playing well against this range....or 3bet and pressurize those weaker hands! As for hands he would 3 Barrell here I'd say AA,KK, JJ, 22, AK, AQ, and KQ. You can beat one bluff with that range.

There are at least 3 reasons to 3-bet:

1. Reducing number of players post-flop by offering blinds bigger price for seeing the flop
2. Increasing probability of being IP postflop by preventing HJ, CO, BTN to call min-raising.
3. Taking a chance to pick-up the pot on the preflop. Our hand has 2 good blockers.

I disagree with 3 betting this hand. 1) You are not ahead of the range of the opener. Why build a pot when his range is stronger than your hand. 2) This hand can play well in a multi-way flop as a heads up flop. 3) I'd hate turning a hand like this into a bluff that plays well as a call. If he 4bets we'd end up folding a hand that can play well.

To me preflop and flop are standard.

The turn and river are much more difficult. When I call this hand, I am calling knowing that the top pair value of the hand is limited. When he barrels it is likely we may not beat any of his value range. Is he really raising and barreling KT here? So if you want to raise, you would be turning this hand into a bluff. Does any stronger hand fold to a turn raise? AK? Maybe, possibly can get a tighter or disciplined player to consider folding AK.

Online a 1/2 pot - 1/2 pot - 1/2 pot line cannot really tell you much, especially if the site has a 1/2 pot button that lazy players just click time after time.