We're close to the end of late reg. I min raise KK with a roughly 40 bb stack from ep. A player from MP (Stack just covers mine) flats and the button jams for a little over 10 bb's.

I'm open for any suggestions from here on out. Not sure about any of my decisions from this point on.

I flat the button's jam. I'm not totally sure off of a normal utg opening range what hands I should be flatting versus jamming in this spot. I think this deep it can't be an overwhelmingly large amount of hands I flat versus jamming. I don't have any reads on villain as he hasn't done anything OOL and on ignition it's tough to keep track on player tendencies.

My thought process is I want to induce a call/back raise from my opponent to win more chips. If an A comes I am willing to make a fold in a three way pot where ranges are strong, depending on how things play out. Both my opponents can block each other so more often than not it will be difficult for an A to flop and I should be able to profit from that.

Villain calls and we are three ways to a flop.

The Flop is 974 all diamonds. I do NOT have a diamond in my hand. What should my bet sizing be? The pot is roughly 30 bb's giving villain and I a One SPR. If I value bet small I run the risk of giving my opponent direct odds to improve and then price them in on any turn based on stack sizes. If I jam I run the risk of only getting called by better hands. What is the play here?

I feel that maybe I should jam because I force villain to make the most mistakes in the hand, though what would a potential calling range be here? Pre flop definitely alters the rest of the decision points in the hand but I don't think jamming is the for sure the objectively correct play.

Jam preflop. Failing that, I like the value bet small on the flop.

I don't think the pre-flop caller is going to see you open UTG then flat a 10 bb shove and think he can bluff you off anything. And the extra 8 bbs you get when he calls isn't worth showing him the flop. Maybe with AA, but not KK.

At this point, you've got 30 bb in the middle and 30 in the stacks and an empty side pot. If you bet like 5 bb, maybe he folds pure whiffs and you can get hands like 6d6 to fold when you jam safe turns. Adx should also fold the turn but they probably wouldn't fold the flop. If they raise the flop, just get it in.

For what it's worth, I changed my mind mid post from just jamming flop to going with the tiny bet. I'm really not sure this would work and in game I would probably just jam.

Yeah man weird ****ing spot. I guess jamming pre I can still get a call for max value against a few of those hands i'm crushing (tho he shouldn't have many after flatting me.) I'm mostly getting folds but likely getting it in spectacularly good. Flop play what small sizing would you do? 1/5th? 1/3rd? I guess your logic makes sense and I probably have the correct fold equity considering the guy probably doesn't wanna call off his stack with a draw like this.

The hand played out with the guy flatting me w/QTdd and I got stacked jamming flop. He slow rolled me tho lol.

Shoving or calling pf are fairly close imo.

As played I don't think we can be folding to non A high boards almost ever. Shoving here gets called by worse soooooooo much and even if he has AK with one diamond, you are still obviously getting a the right price.

@recondite7 do you really think i'm getting called by worse that often on a shove? AQ with a diamond is 45% on the flop so I guess those hands are behind but getting 33% on a call which is printing money. All in all when I jam I don't have too many hands on this flop with a diamond so their outs are probably live. What all non set pocket pairs do you think villain should be calling with here? QQ, JJ? Only one's with a diamond? Also does villain even have many of these if he flatted me pre? Since we were kinda deep (considering how ignition tourneys run) He might have a decent amount of those stronger pairs not wanting to get into a dicey scenario by raising and getting 4 bet.

What villain should have here is somewhat tricky, because honestly he shouldn't be calling with very much to close the action here very often. I most often would expect to see hands like AK, AQ, JJ, TT here with a fair amount of slightly worse random broadway type hands.

The biggest error you could make in the hand would be folding when you are ahead. Even though it is correct for villain to call a shove with 45% equity, this is still a profitable shove for you getting 55%. If you get too cutesy and allow yourself to get blown off the hand, this would be a disaster.

Shoving preflop is at worst marginally less profitable (and possibly better) and if you are concerned about getting into this spot, I would just shove your kings and hope to get called by slightly worse.

Bet small on the flop... why are you worried about a diamond? Are you planning to fold the turn if a diamond falls? I'm guessing not, so just bet an amount that makes sure he gets involved.