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10-14-2017 , 07:12 PM
V was 14/8/0 from 72 hands
I don't get his turn donk,if a flush draw why wouldnt he bet smaller,is it a flopped set that now panics with the flush draw?
/do I have to call here?
Flush gets there on riv anyway,i only need to be right 20% but what bluffs are even here?



[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $6.82 Buy-in (350/700 blinds, 90 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37848938

BTN: 8,504 (12.1 bb)
SB: 17,239 (24.6 bb)
BB: 11,787 (16.8 bb)
UTG+1: 10,046 (14.4 bb)
UTG+2: 52,937 (75.6 bb)
MP1: 27,379 (39.1 bb)
MP2: 27,608 (39.4 bb)
Hero (MP3): 21,328 (30.5 bb)
CO: 12,375 (17.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J J
UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to 1,400, 2 folds, Hero calls 1,400, 4 folds

Flop: (4,660) Q 9 4 (2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets 2,100, UTG+2 calls 2,100

Turn: (8,860) 2 (2 players)
UTG+2 bets 8,860, Hero calls 8,860

River: (26,580) 4 (2 players)
UTG+2 bets 13,290, Hero??
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10-14-2017 , 07:20 PM
Check back the flop. As played you are never good here unless villian is a complete maniac
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10-14-2017 , 08:38 PM
+1 check flop as played doubt we have the best hand very often
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10-15-2017 , 10:30 PM
JJ is a good hand to add to these kind of check backs on the flop to help bolster our check back range too. You want some Qx hands too but with JJ you also block JT hands which we'd want to normally protect against/have bluff so it's ok to let one roll. Plus your hand still has some equity we don't want to fold with.
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10-16-2017 , 10:49 AM
Agree with checking back flop. I wouldn't be surprised to see QQ quite often.

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10-17-2017 , 11:48 AM
I would 3-bet preflop, flop I would check-back, no worse hand will call, no better hand will fold. To the pot-sized bet on the turn I would fold. I donīt see any hands in Villains bluffing range.
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10-17-2017 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Primrose6789
I would 3-bet preflop, flop I would check-back, no worse hand will call, no better hand will fold. To the pot-sized bet on the turn I would fold. I donīt see any hands in Villains bluffing range.
No better hand will fold on flop obviously,but plenty worse than JJ will call,smaller pairs,overcards with bdfs,
on turn I see a few hands that could bluff,flush draws?
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10-17-2017 , 04:30 PM
I agree with t he check back on the flop
weird lines do tend to be strong from generally tight players
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10-18-2017 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BicycleRepairMan
No better hand will fold on flop obviously,but plenty worse than JJ will call,smaller pairs,overcards with bdfs,
on turn I see a few hands that could bluff,flush draws?
Villain is UTG+2 - without stats I would put him on a tighter range like 88+, AJ+, QK+. I donīt think we beat many combos here. AJ folds here, 88 and TT and AK may call, 99 has us crushed, AQ and KQ beat us as well as KK and AA. I think there are more combos that beat us will call than those which draw or we beat.
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