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09-21-2018 , 03:03 PM
$3.30 $1,000 GTD

Blinds 300/600 75 ante

Seat 7 is the button
Seat 1: player 1 (15075).
Seat 2: player 2 (7225).
Seat 3: player 3 (29480).
Seat 4: player 4 hero (9025).
Seat 5: player 5 (22790).
Seat 6: player 6 (34123).
Seat 7: player 7 (5750).
Seat 8: player 8 (30229).
Seat 9: player 9(45641).

Player player 8 has small blind (300)
Player player 9 has big blind (600)

hero J J

3 folds, hero raises to 1800, 1 fold, player 6 calls, 2 folds, player 9 BB calls

*** FLOP ***: [4 2 Q] Pot 6365

Player player 9 BB checks
Player hero checks
Player player 6 bets (2401)
Player player 9 BB folds

Pot 8766

hero? good spot to shove? rule out AQ KK AA QQ. the reason i checked was because i wanted to check-raise shove and hope 55-TT bet calls.

Spoiler:
i shove he calls with 66 and we win the pot

Last edited by pokerhsmtt; 09-21-2018 at 03:13 PM.
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09-21-2018 , 03:25 PM
Yeah I don't know sounds like a little too much hoping in this hand, a Q could easily been in this guys range yeah maybe not QQ or even AQ, but KQ QJ Q10 are all plausible. I personally would take the betting approach, if you're planning to go with it on most flops you're better off just taking the lead and c betting, and if someone comes over the top you can then decide to call or not depending on what happens, if he calls and the turn bricks or whatever you can play from there. At this point to shove over this players bet would be just playing a guessing game to whether or not he hit it, and in most cases they do.
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09-21-2018 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by UntimelyBluff
Yeah I don't know sounds like a little too much hoping in this hand, a Q could easily been in this guys range yeah maybe not QQ or even AQ, but KQ QJ Q10 are all plausible. I personally would take the betting approach, if you're planning to go with it on most flops you're better off just taking the lead and c betting, and if someone comes over the top you can then decide to call or not depending on what happens, if he calls and the turn bricks or whatever you can play from there. At this point to shove over this players bet would be just playing a guessing game to whether or not he hit it, and in most cases they do.
i can't see him folding QT if we bet. he may fold a pair. if hes got something like A7s hes probably folding to a bet from us too. if we bet we have less than 10BB behind so we can't really bet fold. we really need to double up.

Last edited by pokerhsmtt; 09-21-2018 at 03:44 PM.
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09-21-2018 , 03:44 PM
Yeah bet folding isn't right, you started the hand with 15BB it honestly might make more sense to just push all in pre flop, playing JJ with a short stack can sometimes be a headache.
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09-21-2018 , 03:47 PM
check shove he's most likely calling with a Q, sometimes TT ou 99 but less likely only if he has a LAG image given your remaining stack isn't that much, and we dont want to have a 2 outer against a Q, you block QJ but KQ, QT even Q9 or other weak queens are plausible due to his stack, i would probably call once and fold to any bets on the turn since it's a very dry board e isn't likely to be semi-bluffing, if you had more chips and he had a weak queen he probably folds but not looking like it
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09-21-2018 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by UntimelyBluff
Yeah bet folding isn't right, you started the hand with 15BB it honestly might make more sense to just push all in pre flop, playing JJ with a short stack can sometimes be a headache.
yeah pushing in preflop makes things alot easier.
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09-21-2018 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerhsmtt
yeah pushing in preflop makes things alot easier.
Why pushing mate?
A c bet of about 33%of the pot is nice
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09-22-2018 , 07:02 PM
First thing that I notice is your preflop sizing, do you always open 3x when you are this short? But JJ is good hand to jam preflop if there is some villains that might call too loose but I also like to open it 2.5x if theres left some villains that might 3bet jam it too loose. On the flop I would just check fold unless the guy who raised is a total maniac. JJ on Qxx flop obviously aint very strong hand in 3 way hand.
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