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JJ with 60BB JJ with 60BB

09-17-2018 , 08:10 AM
What should be done at all stages of the hand?

PokerStars, $14.70 + $1.80 - Hold'em No Limit - 40/80 (10 ante) - 9 players
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UTG (Hero): 4,740 (59 bb)
UTG+1: 2,771 (35 bb)
MP: 5,989 (75 bb)
MP+1: 18,060 (226 bb)
LP: 5,000 (63 bb)
CO: 5,649 (71 bb)
BU: 8,818 (110 bb)
SB: 5,896 (74 bb)
BB: 5,263 (66 bb)

Pre-Flop: (210) Hero is UTG with J J
Hero raises to 180, 6 players fold, SB calls 140, 1 fold

Flop: (530) A 5 A (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets 175, SB calls 175

Turn: (880) 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (880) 6 (2 players)
SB bets 634, UTG (Hero) folds

Total pot: 880
SB wins 880
JJ with 60BB Quote
09-17-2018 , 08:32 AM
i would just try to see the showdown as cheaply as possible that implies check otf. not sure what was the idea behind c-bet on this flop - roughly speaking if SB has an Ace, then he doesnt fold, but he folds otherwise.
JJ with 60BB Quote
09-17-2018 , 08:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cizixap
i would just try to see the showdown as cheaply as possible that implies check otf. not sure what was the idea behind c-bet on this flop - roughly speaking if SB has an Ace, then he doesnt fold, but he folds otherwise.
Not to give a free card. He might have something with K or Q, poket pairs, flush draws. Is it not enough?
JJ with 60BB Quote
09-17-2018 , 10:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Craft1k
Not to give a free card. He might have something with K or Q, poket pairs, flush draws. Is it not enough?
1) we block a lot of fd's
2) a lot of pocket pairs fold here
3) Kx, Qx are in his range but that should not be the main driver of the decision I believe.
4) in our range there are other hands that we want to c-bet on this flop and JJ is not one of them, I believe.
JJ with 60BB Quote
09-17-2018 , 10:21 AM
This is a board where you probably not going to be able to extract a ton of value (bet bet bet), especially being 60bb's deep.
With that being said, I think a bet is fine on otf but It might be best to check back flop and see what he does on turn, if he checks twice you could go for two streets of value.

As played, I'd probably fold to his near pot size bet.
JJ with 60BB Quote
09-17-2018 , 11:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Craft1k
Not to give a free card. He might have something with K or Q, poket pairs, flush draws. Is it not enough?


If that’s your take, then you should bet the turn too. If I were holding KQ I’d be inclined to take v’s line here, but would be hard pressed to call a turn bet.
JJ with 60BB Quote

      
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