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Old 07-30-2010, 11:29 AM   #1
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Im the worst

So Im just calling flop here to dodge an ace flop against a tightish opponent and then mash the flop. I tanked forever making this call because I was postive one of them had AQ. I mean Im getting alittle over 3to1 right and 22% or something. If ur positive ur beat here can you fold ever?


Full Tilt, NL Hold'em Tournament, 60/120 Blinds, 9 Players
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UTG+2: 7,337
MP1: 2,440
MP2: 8,616
CO: 9,608
BTN: 17,126
Hero (SB): 6,610
BB: 25,030
UTG: 5,440
UTG+1: 6,251

Pre-Flop: (180) K K dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG raises to 300, 5 folds, BTN calls 300, Hero calls 240, BB calls 180

Flop: (1,200) K J T (4 Players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, BTN bets 720, Hero calls 720, BB folds, UTG raises to 1,500, BTN raises to 6,420, Hero calls 5,590 and is All-In, UTG calls 3,640 and is All-In

Turn: (18,960) 8 (3 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: (18,960) 9 (3 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: 18,960 Pot
BTN showed Q A and WON 10,650 (+4,040 NET)
Hero showed K K and LOST (-6,550 NET)
UTG showed Q A and WON 8,310 (+2,870 NET)
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Old 07-30-2010, 11:31 AM   #2
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title your threads better
raise pre
flop is just a bad beat
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Old 07-30-2010, 11:32 AM   #3
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title your threads better
raise pre
flop is just a bad beat
This, especially the better thread title part.
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Old 07-30-2010, 11:33 AM   #4
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sick peel pre
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Old 07-30-2010, 11:33 AM   #5
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raise pre
flop is just a bad beat
yeah yeah I know the bad beat part not worried about that. more about calling my stack off when I know Im beat and not getting odds
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Old 07-30-2010, 11:37 AM   #6
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Old 07-30-2010, 11:38 AM   #7
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yeah yeah I know the bad beat part not worried about that. more about calling my stack off when I know Im beat and not getting odds
I'd focus more on pre than anything else, cuz pre is really bad.
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Old 07-30-2010, 11:38 AM   #8
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Really, I dont think that you are awful, just remember all the good times with KK. I think you might've been better to repop pre, don't be freaking scared to get it in with KK, for what it's worth....you're drawing to the nutz...

you suck

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Old 07-30-2010, 11:38 AM   #9
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lol
tht cnt be good..I need to stop getting high
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Old 07-30-2010, 11:44 AM   #10
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I'd focus more on pre than anything else, cuz pre is really bad.
Heres my thing with that. People are so tight and this is a superstack tourney at that. I raise from the SB and Im getting 0 action cuz the table was playing crazy tight. So instead Id rather see a flop and trap people on a low board. Thats the only way I feel Im getting action from any pair they have by disguising my hand because what fool would call with KK there =)
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sick traps brotha
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Old 07-30-2010, 11:48 AM   #12
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Maybe the discussion should be on the flop, if every one is super tight....can we fold find a fold here?
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Maybe the discussion should be on the flop, if every one is super tight....can we fold find a fold here?
uhm......no
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Old 07-30-2010, 11:51 AM   #14
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Maybe the discussion should be on the flop, if every one is super tight....can we fold find a fold here?
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Old 07-30-2010, 11:53 AM   #15
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yeah yeah I know the bad beat part not worried about that. more about calling my stack off when I know Im beat and not getting odds
What do you mean by not getting the odds ?

You have the best hand 3way:

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Old 07-30-2010, 11:53 AM   #16
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okokok.....I suck too

It really is a bad beat.
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Old 07-30-2010, 12:00 PM   #18
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Thinking about it they could both have other hands than AQ like Aces and a set from the button but it was one of those things where I the bet sizing and ranges equaled AQ. And heres the thing with utg. He insta pots flop. Like if he has aces he altleast pauses at the scare board. And as strong as that is the button raising is set or AQ.

I honestly thought they had the same hand when I called. I tanked like 50 seconds and told them in box.

Now if I know atleast one them have it then Im not getting odds to call technically. You can apply the "too pretty to fold theory" but I had the blanks filled in
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Old 07-30-2010, 12:06 PM   #20
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thats why I wrote the problem out lol. I challenge you to explain why my thinking is wrong based on my explanation.
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Old 07-30-2010, 12:07 PM   #21
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it's ok guys, he had the blanks filled in!
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Old 07-30-2010, 12:08 PM   #22
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there is nothing to write about, you seem to have it figured all of it out already.

not sure why you are even posting the hand, its just a cooler get over it
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hi mickmack, whats up?
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Old 07-30-2010, 12:10 PM   #24
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there is nothing to write about, you seem to have it figured all of it out already.

not sure why you are even posting the hand, its just a cooler get over it
thats cool I get where ur coming from. I just think the only way to take it to the next level is making more percise reads and being able to escape the 45 coolers I get dealt a day
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hi mickmack, whats up?
getting ready to head out

getting an iphone today so i'll jump on aim later!
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