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ICM Punt? ICM Punt?

12-06-2018 , 06:41 PM
Final table.

Payouts ($)
1st - 345
2nd - 277
3rd - 165
4th - 113
5th - 77
6th - 53

Must admit - I'm ruling out JJ+ and probably TT. I think his range is something like 44-99, AJs+

Thoughts? What should our calling rang be here?

PokerStars Hand #194145802089: Tournament #2469870477, $1.96+$0.24 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XLII (17500/35000) - 2018/12/06 21:08:45 WET [2018/12/06 16:08:45 ET]
Table '2469870477 69' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: Percyeus86 (565316 in chips)
Seat 4: dima43 (454495 in chips)
Seat 5: GioGHG98 (605093 in chips)
Seat 7: payito1979 (828786 in chips)
Seat 8: entr3ri (883826 in chips)
Seat 9: 1D00M (412484 in chips)
Percyeus86: posts the ante 4375
dima43: posts the ante 4375
GioGHG98: posts the ante 4375
payito1979: posts the ante 4375
entr3ri: posts the ante 4375
1D00M: posts the ante 4375
Percyeus86: posts small blind 17500
dima43: posts big blind 35000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Percyeus86 [8d 8c]
GioGHG98: folds
payito1979: folds
entr3ri: raises 844451 to 879451 and is all-in
1D00M: folds
Percyeus86: calls 543441 and is all-in
dima43: folds
Uncalled bet (318510) returned to entr3ri
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12-06-2018 , 07:45 PM
i did a sim on ICMizer and its a borderline fold if Villain is pushing nash (45% of hands )
With no info on villain and his awareness of ICM i'd say u had to call with a very tight range , icmizer suggests if villain is pushing 23 % ( any ace , any pair and some suited broadways ) to call with 3.8 % ( TT+ AK and AQs

next time brings us more info on villain tendencies

Cheers

PD : with your range suggested , icmizer says to call with 99+ only (2.7%)
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12-08-2018 , 04:29 AM
Why are you ruling out JJ+? Yes he has too many chips for a standard shove, but all of the players left to act after him the largest stack is 565k making for a standard shove based on the effective stacks.

I would range him with at least the top 25% of hands.
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12-08-2018 , 04:40 AM
Hi sometimes ask myself if we should always go by icm considération . Here the pay jump are very low and if you double you are in a quite good spot for you are even for the chip lead . So sometimes maybe icm software tells you that it is a loosing call but

Here i do think though that it is a fold. Vilain is not shoving as we would expect eventough the range that you give him is way too tight. By the way if you have him’such A strong range you should have fold ? It’s a gamble
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12-08-2018 , 07:14 AM
Doesnt matter how low payjumps are... Between 6th and 4th there are 30x buy ins...
ALWAYS GO BY ICM
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12-08-2018 , 08:51 AM
I tank called and he showed AK. I hit an 8 on the flop and held - went on to finish 2nd but wasn't sure if it was a bad call or not.
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12-08-2018 , 01:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pouled
Doesnt matter how low payjumps are... Between 6th and 4th there are 30x buy ins...
ALWAYS GO BY ICM
Not completely true. Over 95% of the time yes. But there are some well known exceptions, such as the gigabet dillemma.
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