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I won a pot - line check please :) I won a pot - line check please :)

12-08-2018 , 01:28 PM
PokerStars - 50/100 Ante 10 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 93.2 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
MP+1: 83.2 BB (VPIP: 75.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
MP+2: 190.3 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
Hero (CO): 90.6 BB
BTN: 98.1 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
SB: 98.6 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
BB: 64.9 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
UTG: 97.5 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
UTG+1: 183.6 BB (VPIP: 75.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)

9 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.4 BB) Hero has 7 A

UTG calls 1 BB, UTG+1 calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 5 BB, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 4 BB, UTG+1 calls 4 BB

Flop: (17.4 BB, 3 players) Q 5 J
UTG bets 5 BB, UTG+1 calls 5 BB, Hero calls 5 BB

Turn: (32.4 BB, 3 players) K
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets 27 BB, UTG raises to 87.4 BB and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 53.5 BB and is all-in

River: (193.4 BB, 2 players) T

UTG shows 7 Q (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 28%, Flop 88%, Turn 70%)
Hero shows 7 A (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 72%, Flop 12%, Turn 30%)
Hero wins 193.4 BB
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12-09-2018 , 07:29 AM
the only good part of this hand is ISO preflop, everything else is just gambling.
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12-09-2018 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ffsh
the only good part of this hand is ISO preflop, everything else is just gambling.
isn't the Ks a good card for us tho? and I don't think he has a lot of Kx when he checks to us. Is the bet OTT at least okay if we folded to the jam?
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12-10-2018 , 04:16 AM
just to be clear, I would fold on the flop. UTG seems to be value betting, not all aces are "clean" outs for us, we are on multiway pot.
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12-10-2018 , 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ffsh
the only good part of this hand is ISO preflop, everything else is just gambling.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ffsh
just to be clear, I would fold on the flop. UTG seems to be value betting, not all aces are "clean" outs for us, we are on multiway pot.
This
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12-10-2018 , 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ffsh
just to be clear, I would fold on the flop. UTG seems to be value betting, not all aces are "clean" outs for us, we are on multiway pot.
Okay, thanks
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12-10-2018 , 07:25 AM
Also, when we call AI on the turn pot odds seems to be
53 / (60 + 80 + 53) =~ 27%
so we need 13 outs to make this call profitable, do we have 13 outs? Note that Th, Ah are not "clean" outs.
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12-10-2018 , 02:33 PM
Bigger pre, would like to see ~8bb to put pressure on {A8-AT} and {22-77}-type hands.

Flop prob a fold in theory but I like floating because I don't like having to just fold getting 5.5:1 immediate. Surely our opponents will start checking some turns to the point of hero being able to efficiently bluff sometimes, x back and take equity on others. IDK, it's close.

Turn can be much smaller. like 1/3 pot to set up some river barrels should work. Think we're definitely going to be mixing bet and check here so check sometimes to.
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12-10-2018 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ffsh
Also, when we call AI on the turn pot odds seems to be
53 / (60 + 80 + 53) =~ 27%
so we need 13 outs to make this call profitable, do we have 13 outs? Note that Th, Ah are not "clean" outs.
When cards are potential outs, but not clean outs, that does not mean to totally disregard them as outs. They are only bad outs when our opponent's hold specific hands.

So we have 9 outs to the nut flush, 3 more outs to the straight. I'm not sure if I would even count A as an out here. Maybe once in a while but it would be rare for the A to give you the pot. So I would count 12 outs, and 1 of them discounted out. So maybe this is in reality 11.5 outs. (?) maybe touch more or a touch less.

11.5 outs is about 25% equity. (11.5/46 = 0.25).

Then there is the tiny potential of a bluff from villain that we actually beat. So the turn call might be ok. If it is in fact an error, this would be a small error.

As with everyone else, the flop call is the big error in this hand.
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