Game started at: 2017/6/11 2:7:16
Game ID: 933660676 400/800 BIG10 -$5.50 $1,000 GTD, Table 10 (Hold'em)
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: TrevorW99 (49210).
Seat 2: Hero(24512).
Seat 3: spY99 (54393).
Seat 4: Villain2(17902).
Seat 5: paythe (22927).
Seat 6: akawilly (7190).
Seat 7: Villain1(80820).
Seat 8: KeyserSlowplay (31981).
Seat 9: WinMeSomeMoney (57675).
Player paythe ante (75)
Player akawilly ante (75)
Player Villain ante (75)
Player KeyserSlowplay ante (75)
Player WinMeSomeMoney ante (75)
Player TrevorW99 ante (75)
Player Hero ante (75)
Player spY99 ante (75)
Player Villain2 ante (75)
Player paythe has small blind (400)
Player akawilly has big blind (800)
Player Hero received card: [10c]
Player Hero received card: [10d]
Player Villain raises (1600)
Player KeyserSlowplay folds
Player WinMeSomeMoney folds
Player TrevorW99 folds
Player Hero raises (2888)
Player spY99 calls (2888)
Player Villain2 allin (17827)
Player paythe folds
Player akawilly folds
Player Villain allin (79145)
Player Hero folds
Player spY99 folds
Uncalled bet (62918) returned to Villain1

Was I correct in getting away from this?

Your 3b sizing is awful, if you're going to 3b make it atleast 5x so around 4k, don't 3b if you're going to fold to 4b, just flat initially and fold now as played.

Agreed on the poor 3 bet sizing, but not on the "don't 3 bet if you're not going to call a 4 bet".... There was action behind him and initial raiser reshipped.

yeah but we shouldn't be 3b off 30bb if we're going to fold to a 4b.

3b larger for sure.

You can 3 bet and fold on a 30bb stack given certain action. This hand is a pretty great example of where you should be doing it.

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Thanks for the input guys. Are there any specific posts on here that give bet sizing guidance for overall play?

Generally speaking, 3 bets should be around 3x the initial raise(a little more if initial raise is a min raise). Add an (x) for every player that has flatted the raise and an (x) if you are out of position.

IE: you're in the SB with kings, MP raises to 500(2.5x) at 100/200 blinds and the button flats.... I'm 3 betting in the 2100-2500 range. (3x initial raise +1500, one flatter +500, OOP +500) Hand strength and player tendancies can change these numbers a little, but generally this is a pretty solid foundation to start from.

Hope this helps a bit

Wouldn't late stage tournament play affect the bet sizing as well? i.e. a 2.5x being just as effective as a 3-4x?

You want to 3b/fold hands on 30 blinds that have blocking equity but can't flat and can't call 4b. So hands like A5 and stuff work well or QTs in the sb vs button etc. TT isn't a hand you want to fold since that negates all your equity. The other point of flatting is that, besides not getting dusted off our equity, is we help make our flatting range stronger and balanced. We also don't want to 3b an utg range when we have TT cause their 4b range just crushes us.

That's way too big. So if mp opens +300 to 500 and btn flats and I'm in the blinds (bit more for sb obv to price out bb) but I'm raising to like 1350+~ in the BB with 50+ blinds. You want to be able to be 3b/f some hands in the spot you listed tho and making it 2k makes it hard for us to balance that. Esp since at 100/200 there isn't even an ante and if there is it's like 25 so we'd be betting 2k to win about 1.3k which isn't great when we need to have some squeeze hands in there.

I disagree

With what part? lol...

All of it, basically. You use the term blocking equity in your first response. In your second response you suggest 3 betting to 1350. These are the 2 points that stand out though.

You want to block their 4b range when you're 3b/f. Since you're hoping they fold and win the pot there. What don't you agree with about it?

I said 3b around that amount at 200bb. You don't need to 10x cause you're not 10x with bluffs. If you're 10x with bluffs how do you balance it?

Good luck to you and god speed.

Lol ok bud.