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Originally Posted by MissVix
I think this is what I am trying to say. I'm fine with counting outs when I need to improve but only just realised that pros count card combos in their opponent's likely range based on action in the hand (which is why they often take a long time to make a decision) before deciding if they're likely ahead and if not, whether they should call a bet.
The example I posted was to illustrate that horrible feeling when you don't know where you are in the hand. There's no ace on the flop or draw yet villain i active. If they bet first is it just a c-bet or have they hit? If they call are they floating or have they got 2 pair? If they raise are they bluffing, horribly outgunned with bottom pair, or trying to scare you off with KA?
This is really hard to do in real time. I certainly can't do it.
But there are some shortcuts to push you in the right direction.
Say there's a board of AT8 and you're sitting there with AK and facing a big bet.
If you know there are 3 combos of TT, 3 combos of 88, 1 combo of AA and 8 combos apiece of AQ and AJ, that can help with your decision.
If you think your opponent would play T8s and not T8o, then you can drastically reduce the number of two-pair combos.
If that board is AsTs8h, there are way less flush draws out there than if the board is AhTs8s, because people play so suited aces so much more than other suited hands. The same logic applies if you have the As in your hand and the board is AhTs8s.
If you have AK on a AJT board, the number of KQ hands goes down from 16 to 12 because of the K in your hand.
You still can't really use this to create a perfect math problem in real time, the way you would when counting your outs and figuring odds, but it can help.