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03-04-2019 , 08:01 PM
PokerStars - 2500/5000 Ante 375 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 47.63 BB (VPIP: 7.69, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
MP: 16.78 BB (VPIP: 23.08, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
MP+1: 22.63 BB (VPIP: 15.38, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
MP+2: 22.33 BB (VPIP: 35.00, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
CO: 37 BB (VPIP: 15.38, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
BTN: 17.91 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
SB: 63.75 BB (VPIP: 21.74, PFR: 4.35, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
BB: 47.8 BB (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 10)
Hero (UTG): 38.73 BB

9 players post ante of 0.08 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.17 BB) Hero has 8 8

Hero raises to 2.5 BB, UTG+1 raises to 6 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 3.5 BB

Flop: (14.17 BB, 2 players) 7 4 7
Hero bets 4.25 BB, UTG+1 raises to 13.55 BB, Hero raises to 32.66 BB and is all-in, UTG+1 calls 19.11 BB

Turn: (79.49 BB, 2 players) 9

River: (79.49 BB, 2 players) 4

Spoiler:
Hero shows 8 8 (Two Pair, Eights and Sevens)
(Pre 20%, Flop 10%, Turn 5%)
UTG+1 shows K K (Two Pair, Kings and Sevens)
(Pre 80%, Flop 90%, Turn 95%)
UTG+1 wins 79.49 BB



How best to play 88, if answered I promise i will improve. Signed trying to go pro
how best to play 88? Quote
03-04-2019 , 08:29 PM
Leading the flop is oh-so-bad... First your opponent's range is usually insanely strong I don't even think he has AK much at all given the PF sizing, but with that bet you're at the same time face up and overplaying your hand and you have no good option after that because when he does anything else than folding (and when he does you had the best hand and prevented him from cbetting) you have no idea what to do, he could try to bluff you when he doesn't have the nuts but he has 25% with anything and he has a pretty huge range advantage so that's bad.

Close to a fold PF, setmining should be somewhat OK, on better flops like this one we have to c-c most cbet sizings and go from there often fold turn when we don't improve because that min 3-bet UTG+1 is the nuts way too often.
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03-04-2019 , 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by xamlop
Leading the flop is oh-so-bad... First your opponent's range is usually insanely strong I don't even think he has AK much at all given the PF sizing, but with that bet you're at the same time face up and overplaying your hand and you have no good option after that because when he does anything else than folding (and when he does you had the best hand and prevented him from cbetting) you have no idea what to do, he could try to bluff you when he doesn't have the nuts but he has 25% with anything and he has a pretty huge range advantage so that's bad.

Close to a fold PF, setmining should be somewhat OK, on better flops like this one we have to c-c most cbet sizings and go from there often fold turn when we don't improve because that min 3-bet UTG+1 is the nuts way too often.
Totally agree how best to play 88?

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03-04-2019 , 09:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xamlop
Leading the flop is oh-so-bad... First your opponent's range is usually insanely strong I don't even think he has AK much at all given the PF sizing, but with that bet you're at the same time face up and overplaying your hand and you have no good option after that because when he does anything else than folding (and when he does you had the best hand and prevented him from cbetting) you have no idea what to do, he could try to bluff you when he doesn't have the nuts but he has 25% with anything and he has a pretty huge range advantage so that's bad.

Close to a fold PF, setmining should be somewhat OK, on better flops like this one we have to c-c most cbet sizings and go from there often fold turn when we don't improve because that min 3-bet UTG+1 is the nuts way too often.
thanks Xamlop, i like your strategy and will try to implement it next time in a this similar situation.
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