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How badly did I punt those hands? How badly did I punt those hands?

09-08-2020 , 11:43 PM
2 hands from the daily special $5.50 on GG (8max) that I am not very happy with & just wanted to see what people think.

Hand 1:

Level 2, Blinds are 60/120 (we late reg, 3rd hand at the table)

V (141bb, VPIP of 52%) opens to 3bb from UTG+2, H (82bb) has AK in SB & 3 bets to 7.1bb, V calls.

Flop: (16.4bb) A83 H bets 5.4bb, V calls
Turn: (27.2bb) 9 H bets 13.6bb, V raises to 27.2bb, H calls
River: (81bb) 4 H checks, V bets 40bb, H calls

I am happy enough with pre & flop, turn I am not sure on & once we call turn I think we can’t fold river. I think I tend to punt vs maniacs/very loose guys since I can’t put them on any ranges.

Hand 2:

Level ?, blinds are 300/600 (2nd bullet, about 15min before end of late reg)

V1 (46bb, VPIP 16%) opens BTN to 3bb, BB (75bb, VPIP 22%), H (33bb, VPIP 20%) has TT in SB and 3 bets all-in.

I think I goofed this on pretty bad. Calling seemed way to weak & I did not want to 3 bet for 1/3 of my stack with BB yet to act & the potential 4 bet shove from BTN. On the other hand 33bb is a pretty big shove and TT is a good but not a great hand.
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09-09-2020 , 01:48 AM
H2 is absolutely fine - NH unlucky
H1 - why is your 3b size so small? A bigger 3b oop makes it easier to play - altho in this case probably easier to go broke

as played I think we prob fold river - I don't think pop bluff enough with this line to call down - but other people will probably tell you that this is exploitable - that if we fold TPTK we are overfolding etc but I don't see enough bluffs to call profitably
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09-13-2020 , 05:59 AM
I agree H2 is fine. I might have opted for a 3bet to like 10-11bb and called shoves but that depends on reads/personal preference. A 33bb shove is pushing the max stack I am shoving over an open but given it is a 3x it seems like a good spot.

For H1 I agree your 3bet is definitely to small. That said, as played I personally think I sigh call off against a spewy/loose guy. Given there is a non completing FD as well. I think turn is a call and you get pretty good odds on river.

I have to say postflop play isn't my strong suit so I might be wrong here. Good spot to run in Equilab or similar. Intuitively I feel like your overfolding otherwise, which feels like a mistake against a spewy guy. What do we think he has here? Sets, 2 pairs containing A (which we heavily block), 89(s?). A very important question is: is he wide enough to open all off suit aces? Drastically changes combos. Also, does he raise A8, A3, (FDs?) on flop?
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09-13-2020 , 11:40 PM
For H1, does anyone call flop, min-raise the turn, and bet 1/2 pot on the river as a bluff? Seems very very value-y. I can see some people min-raising the turn to check-back the river, but I imagine they have to put you on something like AK-AQ once you call the turn.

I probably call sometimes because I'm a massive station and your AK blocks the missed draws, but my brain is screaming fold here.
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09-14-2020 , 03:12 AM
Hand 1 does not look like a bluff at all. Unless villian is an absolute maniac it is a fold on the river. Def 3 bet bigger pre.

Hand 2 Very standard
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09-15-2020 , 11:28 AM
Thanks for the feedback. H1 I definitely should have 3bet bigger, can’t remember why I went that small. V seemed like a maniac, so I felt like he can take that line with worse hands, like AQ, AJ, JJ, QQ, missed flush draws, definitely got all the two pair combos with A in his range as well though. H2 I think I have no clearly better option with my stack size, don’t really want to 3bet, get called & then cry check fold any flop with over cards.
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09-16-2020 , 07:03 AM
Ran a few scenarios in Equilab & if we give V a range of AA, A9, A8, A3 for value & then all the AJ+ for bluffs/overvalued hands by V we got 46% equity. If we remove all the AJ combos we got 33%, once we remove AQ we are left with 12%. That’s assuming V has a pretty narrow range in that spot, which with the 52% VPIP I doubt is accurate.

He could well show up with any 88+ combo and 33, in which case we got 43% once again.

Probably should give the guy credit for 2p+ hand the way he played it, but hard to imagine he is not capable of having a worse hand that he overvalues.
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09-16-2020 , 03:06 PM
^It would be really dumb for V to show up with AJ/AQ here - they will occasionally show up with random junk but hardly ever this
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09-20-2020 , 06:56 PM
1. I can't understand why this size preflop and OTF. But you are "happy" with this. I guess, I am happy too. Postflop fine for me. With this kicker.

2. Fine. I will do the same. Because this 3x size. If it was 2x, then you can use this h0mo size for 3bet.
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