Initial raiser is 14/11 in 150 hands. His UTG PFR was 11%.. Cbets 50% OOP (4)
BB is another reg

Can you guys check my line? As played what do we do OTT?

Thanks

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $2.70 Buy-in (700/1,400 blinds, 175 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
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Hero (MP): 43,035 (30.7 bb)
CO: 46,901 (33.5 bb)
BTN: 52,376 (37.4 bb)
SB: 103,556 (74 bb)
BB: 62,196 (44.4 bb)
UTG: 43,192 (30.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 8 8
UTG raises to 2,800, Hero calls 2,800, 3 folds, BB calls 1,400

Flop: (10,150) 9 6 2 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets 3,000 , BB raises to 11,883 UTG folds Hero ??

Given the player is tight its unlikely hes doing this with some kind of weak hand or draw the weakest draw he should show up with here is 2 overcards and a flush or straight draw, with a little luck he could both. I'd probably give it up right here or rip it all in on the flop over his raise if I felt this player was capable of doing this as a semi bluff.

Pretty rough spot - these always suck in MTTs, but given we're not even doing crash hot against a lot of his bluffs (and we're blocking the OESD and some gutters pretty heavy - which should account for a good portion of his bluffs) we just gotta fold this one I think.

I like the stab but I would make it larger. The small bet not only gives decent odds to lots of hands with equity against yours, but it looks like a cheap stab.

As played I think it's a pretty clear fold to the x/r.

coincidentally I played almost the same spot yesterday...
and I checked OTF. exactly the same I would do here.

Betting flop is best, we rate to have the best hand most of the time, and most turns are meh for us. 8s is the only turn we love, and even then that makes a straight possible.

Definitely just folding to the raise barring a read that BB is totally spewy, which it appears we do not have.

Next poster (Black Aces) resumes my thinking : if tight UTG didn't c bet possibly we are ahead. Lets take the pot right now because any turn card sucks

I would size my entire range here 1/3 . No need to go bigger OR already showed weakness so the main goal of the bet is to deny equity and get called by big blind 6x and charge his draw

As played I mean you’re range is kind of capped because you don’t have many overpaire except TT but BB seems to be ****ing around here a majority of the time.
The thing is is he enough competent to value raise a 9x which would be good here in this spot . If so I would fold because your equity against his range is very poor

Overall you are better off folding here. It’s a suite marginal spot. You’ll have better hand to call. But on the other hand you don’t have a heart which is kind ok in this pot to consider calling


Tricky spot indeed

it's multiway pot and BB hits the flop very well. This is the reason you should check here - if you get raised, you should fold and you simply throw away a good hand.

Do you have a larger raise size preflop? I will usually throw 77-jj and AQ AK in a larger open size. Mostly so 3bets are more costly but it serves to makes spots like this easier. I call since with my bet size I am priced in. GG.

What range do you give BB preflop? Also "if we get raised we have to fold" isn't a good reason not to bet on this hand. I can see if we have a draw (say we have KQ on T95 and have to fold to a big raise but have a draw to the nuts) but here if we are beaten we basically never catch up.

Right. People think they are entitled to showdown their entire value range leading to excessive pot control.

okay, maybe you don't have to check, but it's not a bad option at all. I prefer checking, but someone else prefers betting and then sending questions to 2p2. that's fine!

more otf, you give make x/r more attractive to draws with smaller bets as you look weaker, id go something like 40 - 50%

Obv flop is a fold, its a classic way behind / marginally ahead situation which we never want to commit a bunch of chips, ie: we dont have good equity vs overs and f draw etc