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12-18-2020 , 05:41 PM

WHO_RUNIT

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9 handed 25/125/250

UTG 2 - 9904 (39bb's)
UTG 3 - 7500 (30bb's)
HERO HJ - 26,204 (104bb's) KK

UTG 2 limp 250
UTG 3 limp 250
HERO raises to 1,114

UTG 2 calls 864
UTG 3 calls 864

pot (3,942)
FLOP T 3 5 r

check
check
HERO bets 2,149
UTG 2 calls
UTG 3 folds

pot (8,240)
TURN A

UTG 2 (6,616 behind) checks
HERO?

What's the correct play here? Opponent has an SPR <1 but still seems like enough chips for me to slow down maybe?

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12-18-2020 , 08:04 PM

Captain-Hindsight

adept

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yeah I think it's a check here

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12-19-2020 , 03:02 PM

jbgutrock

centurion

Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 192

If KK checks turn then what is plan on river? Fold to all in? What river does KK call? I don't like the A but opponent has some hands KK is still beating. I think bet and call opponent all in....reluctantly.

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12-19-2020 , 03:13 PM

Captain-Hindsight

adept

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it's a really sick spot if we check back and V jams a blank river. I'm not entirely sure what I do.. would be nice to know what all the suits are

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12-19-2020 , 05:49 PM

WHO_RUNIT

grinder

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Originally Posted by Captain-Hindsight

it's a really sick spot if we check back and V jams a blank river. I'm not entirely sure what I do.. would be nice to know what all the suits are

I had KsKc
Flop-Th 3s 5d As

I think it could go either way checking or betting but I'm leaning towards checking back (planning on calling a shove on any non T J Q and maybe spade river.)
If he DOESN'T have an ace and I bet/shove turn, he will most likely fold and will only call when I'm beat.

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12-19-2020 , 06:54 PM

jbgutrock

centurion

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Been thinking this one over more....if KK checks back turn, I assume KK then checks river or calls a bet. Problem with this line is that we are probably calling a shove when beat and checking when ahead.
What if KK bet turn small? Planning to fold if jammed and planning to check behind on river?

Lastly; what is opponent range? They limped then called a 4x raise...I think NOT AA, AK, or AQ. NOT KK, QQ? JJ? Does contain; AJ, AT, Ax, Tx, KJ, QJ, etc and pairs TT-22. Lots of other junk possible. Thoughts?

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12-19-2020 , 07:01 PM

Captain-Hindsight

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if checked to OTR I'd jam

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12-25-2020 , 02:29 PM

lionking111

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Originally Posted by WHO_RUNIT

shove turn is best play here

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12-25-2020 , 03:04 PM

rayfox111

adept

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Bet 1,500ish on the turn and see what he makes of that. If he continues he very likely is holding an ace. If he bets the river I think I'm folding.
He may have limped in with small pair and hit a set on the flop, I think he would have bet it though, so unlikely.

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12-25-2020 , 06:43 PM

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killer_kill

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Why does everyone think villain just has an ace? What aces are limping pre that called the flop? ATo/A5s? Not that I think we have to bet then just is a weird fear imo. Like yeah it's a bad card but we don't need to overreact somewhat.

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12-30-2020 , 05:31 PM

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Fletcher2323

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The only real aces in villain’s range are ATs, A3s and A5s. Given what’s on the board, that’s ATcd, A3cdh and A5ch. That’s 7 combos. Much more likely he called the flop with some other pair that didn’t have an ace. There are tons of JT, 56, 34, 77 type hands.

I check the turn for both pot control and to under rep your hand, which makes JT more likely to pay you off or even bet into you on the river. Plus if he does have an ace, you lose less by checking the turn.

If he thinks you’re afraid of the ace, he ought to bet smaller when he has it (to get a call) and try to bluff you when he doesn’t. Either way is good for you.

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