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09-13-2020 , 11:32 PM
Hand 1: Two pair vs. two opponents, turn four to a straight

Both opponents are fairly loose and on the station-y side.

Preflop: UTG+1 (50bb) limps, LJ (117bb) limps, I (cover both) overlimp the CO with 86. Everyone else folds.

I think this was a decent spot to just limp because the button and blinds were tight and not messing around too much preflop. UTG+1 is also not very deep which isn't great for raising this hand.

Flop (5.9bb): 876. UTG+1 checks, LJ bets 2bb, I raise to 6bb, UTG+1 cold-calls, LJ calls.

This pretty clearly should be a lot bigger. I was afraid of unnecessarily committing myself, but even if I go bigger this shouldn't be a huge problem. If I were bluffing, I'd have to bet a lot more anyway.

Turn (23.9bb): 5. Checks through.

Any merit to betting here for thin value or protection against draws? I pretty much thought it likely one of my opponents caught up as I couldn't imagine both opponents overcalling the flop without a 9. I suppose they could have a combination of diamond draws and smaller two pairs.

River: 9. UTG+1 bets 12bb, LJ shoves, not much of a decision for me.

Hand 2: Flopped a set, river is a fourth spade

Preflop: UTG (237bb) opens to 2bb, I call in the CO (201bb) with 33, SB (78bb) calls, BB (156bb) 3bets to 11bb. UTG calls, I call, SB calls.

First call is standard, second might be a little loose but we're deep enough to go set mining especially with SB likely to come along.

Flop (44.9bb): 3KJ. SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, I bet 19bb, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

I'm used to betting smaller on these monotone flops (especially multiway) in cash. Should I be playing this kind of flop more exploitatively and try to get max value from a narrower continuing range?

Turn (89.9bb): 2. BB checks, UTG checks, I bet 51bb. BB folds, UTG calls.

Would you bet larger here?

River (192bb): 5. UTG donk shoves 131bb.

Pretty gross. I don't see anyone going beserk with a worse made hand and a two-street calling range includes lots of As so I just folded. I could otherwise have some single-pair hands with a high spade to call with if I desire.
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09-14-2020 , 03:42 AM
these are both easy folds - what is your question?
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09-14-2020 , 08:55 PM
Calling an UTG open with 33 when you're this deep isn't what I would consider "standard".

Calling the 3b is pretty marginal tho.

Flop raise in hand 1 is pretty small too.
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09-15-2020 , 12:49 PM
Hand 1: Flop would have called with that board texture, being in position, and stp ratio. 6bb raise looks to be building the pot, not forcing any folds.

Hand 2: set mining in that situation isn't smart, especially with 33. BB raise then UTG call is a fold for me in early stage MTT. Would have prevented the post flop conundrum all together.
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09-16-2020 , 02:07 AM
Hand 2: What's wrong with calling the initial raise with 33? If I'm not calling in this situation (late position, deep, multiway, passive blinds) then when? I'm usually not trying to set mine this from earlier positions or shallow.

Or is the concern more with reverse implied odds from set over set with 3 others in the pot? In general, seems like it'd be more profitable to hit a set against a stronger hand.
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