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07-07-2019 , 05:56 PM
Playing the 4:00 pm daily deepstack ($200 Buy in) at WSOP and made the final table 9/9 in chips sitting with 11 bbs (88k stack with blinds at 4k/8k with 8k bb ante).

Folds to BU (standard weak daily player - 200k stack) opens to 17k, SB flats (also weak player who wants to see flops - 150k stack), we look down at Ad4c.

Rejam does not seem that great because we have little fold equity with a open and a call. Fold does not seem great because BU has weak opening range and SB is capped when he flats + no real ICM pressure as short stack.

We decide to flat call so pot is 59k and we have 71k back.

Flop: Td, 9d, 3c - We got the back door NFD and an overcard.

SB checks, we check, BU cbets just shy of half pot for 28k, SB now folds and it is on us.

Here, I am thinking this standard daily player will just cbet alot because that is what you do when in position and blinds call, SB is now out of the way which is nice, this flop is kind of better for our range than PFR's/BU's, the pot is now 87k, and if we jam, BU only has to call 43k to win 158k.

Nonetheless, we rip it in and go for the check/jam. Now BU is getting a great price and he is in the tank. Eventually he ends up calling with the Qs8c and we get the hold for the more than double with ace high.

It is kind of "stop and go"-y, but what do you guys think about playing a FT short stack in this way? If SB folds, probably just gonna rip 11 bbs preflop with the A4o vs. a BU open, but if we rip over an open and a flat, even if like QJo calls us, it kind of sucks. By flatting, although we are left with 8-9 bbs post flop, it seems like one can find certain situations that are better than just getting it in pre.
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07-07-2019 , 06:33 PM
No, it's not a good way to play it.

Jam pre way better. You will win 50k there and then a lot which is amazing. When you do get called in 1 spot the dead money will more than compensate for sometimes being dominated.

You can call pre but you'll realize your equity very poorly (as in you won't win the pot as often as your prelop equity).

As played, you suddenly decide that now you do have fold equity when your opponent bets out on a board of which you miss with a minclick behind, and you get called by the one hand you aren't crushed by.

Sorry to be harsh but I don't think you played the hand well.

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Last edited by Czech Rays; 07-07-2019 at 06:49 PM.
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07-07-2019 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Czech Rays
No, it's not a good way to play it.

Jam pre way better. You will win 50k there and then a lot which is amazing. When you do get called in 1 spot the dead money will more than compensate for sometimes being dominated.

You can call pre but you'll realize your equity very poorly (as in you won't win the pot as often as your prelop equity).

As played, you suddenly decide that now you do have fold equity when your opponent bets out on a board of which you miss with a minclick behind, and you get called by the one hand you aren't crushed by.

Sorry to be harsh but I don't think you played the hand well.

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No need to be sorry, I appreciate the feedback. In game my thought was the min click could get some better ace highs to fold (seems like low stakes players often over fold despite great price) and in some, but very few, my ace high is still good (against broadway combos).

Wanted to see if looking for stop and go spots post flop off the short stack was a thing in spots where we are marginal and does not seem like we have much fold equity, but I see your point re simply jamming pre is going to be better.
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07-07-2019 , 10:12 PM
Im sorry but the play sucks.
It's a jam or fold spot with your hand ( offsuit Ax), you have fold equity and good equity when called. Don't try to avoid the variance, its inevitable. I can see a complete with a low suited ace like A2-A7 but NEVER with an offsuit Ace

As played, your math is off because BUT has to call 40k to win 200k. Open flopzilla/equilab and check your range vs range and you will see that BUT has more equity here than you. You don't put pressure on button's range with your line and allow him to play perfectly. His call with Q8s was correct
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07-10-2019 , 05:50 AM
the title is kinda confusing. 200$ are low stakes?
also your Play doesn't look like a new strategy….

with 8bb and no foldequity after 3 People see a flop, i don't see the Point in bluffing A high here.
fold or shove pre, everything else is a waste of chips
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07-11-2019 , 04:49 AM
Fold pre imo. I bet there will be better spots in the next orbit.
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