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07-12-2020 , 04:47 AM

miguelin43

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Hi guys

FT; Preflop raiser has raised first 4 hands of the FT in a row

I think ICM dictates that he should fold but his really top range as there are 3 shorter guys right? So the shove is good?

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $1.80 Buy-in (350/700 blinds, 85 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
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SB: 36,509 (52.2 bb)
BB: 5,062 (7.2 bb)
UTG+2: 6,156 (8.8 bb)
MP1: 1,897 (2.7 bb)
MP2: 15,535 (22.2 bb)
MP3: 22,808 (32.6 bb)
Hero (CO): 12,017 (17.2 bb)
BTN: 11,016 (15.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 5

2 folds, MP2 raises to 1,730, MP3 folds, Hero raises to 11,932 and is all-in

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07-12-2020 , 08:33 AM

oldgoat

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Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 1,972

he prob should fold a lot but that's not to say that he will esp as he is the bigger stack

ICM pressure on us is huge so it's not a good spot to gamble

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07-12-2020 , 12:14 PM

Darth_Maul

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Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 4,435

ICM suicide imo. You don't really have the stack to be putting pressure on others, especially ones who cover you.

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07-12-2020 , 08:05 PM

killer_kill

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Seems like a fold.

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07-13-2020 , 09:44 AM

000Puh4u

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Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 322

This is a fold. You risk to bust the tournament. You have to play really tight when they are a few shorter stacks coz you don't wanna bust before them

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07-14-2020 , 12:20 PM

miguelin43

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Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 820

Uummmm i thought villain should be suffering "acute ICM" too because if he calls and loses then he goes from 2º to almost nothing

But ok, i get your idea guys...i have more ICM pressure than him right?

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07-15-2020 , 07:58 AM

000Puh4u

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You definitely put a lot of icm pressure on him but there are more players behind, which might wake up with a strong hand and creamed/eliminate you. If you were in the BB then that would have been a different story. This might be a marginally profitable play but I don't know. I see no issue with overfolding. If you were 3x your stack, then I would have loved your play.

I am not an icm expert myself so I am interested in hearing other opinions.

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07-16-2020 , 12:58 PM

Darth_Maul

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Originally Posted by miguelin43

In a $1.80 tourney you can't assume your opponents know anything about ICM.

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07-17-2020 , 01:44 AM

wowsooooted

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I think icm dicates you should fold here not him because 3,7,8bb stacks around

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