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03-16-2018 , 10:04 PM

tucanroman

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 434

This is a $1 180p regular sng. FT, I was in last position.

7 minutes por next blind level. Is this shove ok?

Poker Stars, $0.91 Buy-in (500/1,000 blinds, 100 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37932431

MP2: 96,481 (96.5 bb)
MP3: 19,803 (19.8 bb)
CO: 21,194 (21.2 bb)
Hero (BTN): 11,121 (11.1 bb)
SB: 31,658 (31.7 bb)
BB: 29,136 (29.1 bb)
MP1: 60,607 (60.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q

4 folds, Hero raises to 11,021 and is all-in, SB calls 10,521, BB folds

Flop: (23,742) 8

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: (23,742) J

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (23,742) 2

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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03-16-2018 , 11:59 PM

wowsooooted

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 5,077

yes, its a good shove, we still have FE to the remaining stacks and we need to get our stack in now being in last place. There is no icm implications here as we have the least chips

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03-19-2018 , 11:55 AM

tucanroman

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 434

Can you help me with the "though procces" about this kind of spots?

I feel like, I could have waited for a better hand to push. Maybe while waiting 1 or 2 villains go down too.

I kind of "know" it was the correct move, and you confirmed. But is the best move possible in that situation?

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03-19-2018 , 02:33 PM

Darth_Maul

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 4,435

You can't really afford to wait for a better hand than QTs on the button because you'll just get blinded/anted down too far.

ICM isn't a factor because you're so much shorter than everyone else at the FT. You have half the chips of the next smallest stack. So think about it this way: you've made it this deep and have already locked up some cash, but you're so far behind the rest of the pack that you really have nothing to lose by getting aggressive and shoving your chips in. And QTs on the button is a great spot to do it.

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03-19-2018 , 02:43 PM

oldgoat

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 1,972

I don't quite agree that ICM is irrelevant - there is still an ICM factor here but it's not anywhere near enough to stop you shoving here - In terms of mindset you just have to accept that having 11bb you are in high variance territory you can get lucky or unlucky - here you got unlucky - but hoping to outlast bigger stacks when you have only 11 BB would mean you have little chance of getting top 3 where the real money is

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