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Fold AKo Preflop ?! Fold AKo Preflop ?!

03-20-2018 , 02:17 PM
Hello,
We are in late stages in a deep tournament and 40 players left, I want to know if we can Fold AK over here after a 4bet PF ?
Villain 1 has 17/14 And the second 11/8

PokerStars - 2000/4000 Ante 500 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 5.48 BB (VPIP: 12.90, PFR: 8.47, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 63)
Hero (BB): 82.69 BB
UTG: 15.34 BB (VPIP: 17.46, PFR: 11.48, 3Bet Preflop: 7.41, Hands: 63)
UTG+1: 45.87 BB (VPIP: 12.96, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 54)
MP: 53.3 BB (VPIP: 25.29, PFR: 18.82, 3Bet Preflop: 13.51, Hands: 88)
MP+1: 48.7 BB (VPIP: 17.46, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 63)
CO: 29.45 BB (VPIP: 12.96, PFR: 9.74, 3Bet Preflop: 1.41, Hands: 162)
BTN: 17.1 BB (VPIP: 7.25, PFR: 7.46, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 69)

8 players post ante of 0 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has A K

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to 2 BB, CO raises to 5.84 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 14.99 BB, MP+1 raises to 48.57 BB and is all-in, CO calls 23.48 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 33.58 BB

Flop: (127.97 BB, 3 players) 6 3 9

Turn: (127.97 BB, 3 players) 2

River: (127.97 BB, 3 players) 5

Hero shows A K (High Card, Ace)

Main Pot [89.47 BB]: (Pre 5%, Flop 0.3%, Turn 0%)
Side Pot#1 [38.5 BB]: (Pre 33%, Flop 17%, Turn 10%)

MP+1 shows Q Q (One Pair, Queens)

Main Pot [89.47 BB]: (Pre 19%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
Side Pot#1 [38.5 BB]: (Pre 67%, Flop 83%, Turn 90%)

CO shows A A (One Pair, Aces)

Main Pot [89.47 BB]: (Pre 76%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)

MP+1 wins 38.5 BB
CO wins 89.47 BB
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03-20-2018 , 03:35 PM
Don't post results.

Guy with TAG stats opens, gets 3b by a nit, you come in with a 4b, and guy shoves almost 50bb, which then gets called by the nit. Given you'd be putting half your stack at risk, you can definitely fold. Let's say original guy has JJ+/AK and nit has QQ+/AK. You're less than 19% to win.

An interesting question however is why you 4b over the nit's 3b to begin with. We're you hoping to iso him and were surprised at guy's shove?
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03-20-2018 , 05:58 PM
Well, even a Nit guy can 3 bet with AQs+ and TT+ so in late stages he can fold to a 4bet, and even if he shoves I have the odds against him.
and as you said I was surprised by the first villain shove and then the second comes in too so I got great odds to call, think I was committed but still think a Fold could be good here .. Little bit confused.

PS: sorry that I posted the results I'm new over here.
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03-20-2018 , 07:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sido_Obc
Well, even a Nit guy can 3 bet with AQs+ and TT+ so in late stages he can fold to a 4bet
Not likely, the guy has 3b exactly twice in 162 hands.
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03-20-2018 , 07:36 PM
Don't know but see many 3bet = 0 in more than 200 hands and found him 3 betting in late stages with 78s for example, any other thought ?!
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03-20-2018 , 08:45 PM
You can definitely argue a fold here, unless the players are spewy you'll be up against either the same hand or be flipping, and you don't necessarily have to risk half your chips on a marginal spot.
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03-21-2018 , 07:43 AM
I See So than was my mistakes that changes that tournament .. Thank you all for your Help!
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03-22-2018 , 05:55 PM
Sigh and fold to the jam
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03-23-2018 , 11:59 PM
Flat pre or re-iso CO stack seems better than 4b/x
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