Opp is 42/25, no info on big blind caller. Flop TPTK, cbet, he raises with 1 active player ahead. BB folded and I decided to push with my 30 BB, but I think I should fold. It's probably better than just a pair, because there is BB who can still act and I can 3bet as well, so I think it's much better than KJ or straight draw or whatever else.
What do you think folks?

Folding or calling is better than shoving.

TPTK usually isn't good enough to call a shove on such a dry board. More often than not, it's a set. JJ, 88, 33 are all well within his range. He's fairly deep and can afford to go set mining. He could also have flatted pre with QQ. T9s is possible as well. But if he was on an OESD, he would most likely just flat the flop to try and see another card for as cheap as possible.

I think in this situation, if we call, we decide that we are likely behind and we don't voluntarily put any more money in the pot unless we improve.

never 3b here, we dont get called by worse or fold out better

call flop and go from there vs this guy with loose stats, I may even be temped to call a 2nd on brick turns like non K,Q,7 would fold to 3rd. Thats the plan I would make before I cbet, then lock it in and execute it. if I had KJ I would call flop and fold to 2nd.

He deffo has some better hands in his range like slow played overpairs, sets or top 2, he shouldn't have middle or bottom 2 very often.. altho he does seems like a clicker at a $2 tourny, so dont be completely suprised.

But in saying that, this specific opponent could overplay KJ or semibluff 9T, so I think calling 2 streets is fine on the right runouts.

I'm not sure how much stock I'd put in the stats. How big a sample is that? Any postflop stats?

The minraise on that flop is strong. Sure he could be overplaying a worse Jx but there are lots of better hands in his range. And a minraise on a dry board sgainst 2 opponents is a sign of strength.

So I would call with the plan to x/c or x/f the turn depending on his bet size. But you do have to be careful here starting the hand with only 38bb.

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If I remember correctly it's about 95 hands. Postflop stats: "Raise vs cbet" 0/3, so this is the first time he raised vs cbet.
I realized too late that I shouldn't AI. An active player after him and he is raising.. Of course he is got something much better than just a pair or sd.

I wouldn't start folding a hand this good at this buy-in level against an unknown.

He is not an unknown. I had 95 hands on him or so. There is 2 things I was scared about: Flop raise vs cb 0/3 and another player acting after him. So he would not raise with just QJ or KJ in this case I guess.

What's so good about it?

If you folded all 1 pair hands when raised at this buy in level you'd come out way ahead.

You can't have been that scared, given you proceeded to shovel the rest of your stack into the pot

Oh right. He's 42/25 though, not 8/5. He'll get to the flop with such a wide range and when he minraises IP, we can't just completely discard one pair hands or draws from his range early in the tournament.


We definitely get to make hero folds in these tourneys a lot, I just don't think this is a spot where we should do it.

^^ This, basically.

I would cbet slightly smaller. It's a dry board and I want them to continue with the weaker parts of their range.

His click back is interesting. With the info given, I think he can show up with worse Jx, some hands like 99/TT or smaller pocket pairs, some 8x, bluffs, etc. A $2 loose player can show up with a lot here.

88/33/J8s will usually just call on this type of board and it's a really small part of his range. QQ-AA are a small possibility, but most players would 3b pre on these stacks.

I would just call his click back on the flop and try to get the money in on any turn.

I would probably agree with this tbh! Obviously no absolutes in poker but pretty rule of thumb.