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09-02-2020 , 04:52 AM

kwokc

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Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 530

Hello everybody!

PokerStars - 150/300 Ante 40 NL - Holdem - 2 players

BB: 97.26 BB tricky recreational
Hero (SB): 36.07 BB

How would you play this hand?
should i bet otf?
was the reraise ott bad?
was the river bet to large?

2 players post ante of 0.13 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.77 BB) Hero has Q

Hero calls 0.5 BB, BB checks

Flop : (2.27 BB, 2 players) 7

BB checks, Hero checks

Turn : (2.27 BB, 2 players) 8

BB bets 1 BB, Hero raises to 3.56 BB, BB calls 2.56 BB

River : (9.39 BB, 2 players) 6

BB checks, Hero bets 5.63 BB, BB raises to 26.29 BB, ???

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09-02-2020 , 06:23 AM

Theagent77

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Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 647

I’m flatting rather than raising on the turn but I don’t really dislike your play since we can extract some value, although once he calls and checks river I’m happy to check back because it would really a tough spot if I got raised. You said villain is a tricky rec, does it mean he likes to bluff? We can catch him with this call but it would be nice to know the payouts. I don’t blame you for folding - we didn’t invest that much in the pot and he has all diamonds combos and we have none. On the other hand, he also has a lot of worse two pair (87,72,Q2) and better two pair as well (but we somewhat block them). Sets are also a possibility.

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09-02-2020 , 06:24 AM

Theagent77

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Also, knowing stack size of other players would help

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09-02-2020 , 06:24 AM

Theagent77

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Also, knowing stack size of other players (if any) would help

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09-02-2020 , 08:17 AM

Honigkuchenx

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Originally Posted by Theagent77

Also, knowing stack size of other players (if any) would help

It’s heads up.

I would play this way more aggressively. Raise pre, bet flop & keep applying pressure. I am aware V has more then double our chips, but no reason to play that passive. As played I don’t think we can afford to call river.

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09-02-2020 , 08:26 AM

kwokc

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Originally Posted by Theagent77

I saw him call light and limp with monster pre ,but never seen him bluff only had like 100 hands on him. only first place paid like 20$ 2 non

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09-02-2020 , 08:28 AM

kwokc

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Originally Posted by Honigkuchenx

havent played MTT for 2 years I played cash the last 1-2 years. what hands would you open from b?

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09-02-2020 , 08:35 AM

Theagent77

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My bad. Haven’t read the post carefully. Well we can play this more aggressively and potentially go broke

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09-02-2020 , 08:37 AM

Honigkuchenx

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Originally Posted by kwokc

havent played MTT for 2 years I played cash the last 1-2 years. what hands would you open from b?

Pretty much 80-90% of all hands & Q6o definitely qualifies. If the guy plays a bit more aggressive and is likely to 3bet you at a high frequency, reduce it to around 70% of hands. Being IP is a massive advantage when you are heads up.

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09-02-2020 , 08:40 AM

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Honigkuchenx

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Originally Posted by Theagent77

My bad. Haven’t read the post carefully. Well we can play this more aggressively and potentially go broke

Well we are definitely not winning by playing like a Nit. V has us out stacked 2:1.

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09-02-2020 , 08:48 AM

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Theagent77

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Originally Posted by Honigkuchenx

Well we are definitely not winning by playing like a Nit. V has us out stacked 2:1.

Yep we’re saying the same thing

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09-02-2020 , 11:22 AM

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Joey Fiuza

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Originally Posted by Honigkuchenx

This.⤴️

As played, check back river and pray he hasn't caught good. A check-raise is rarely a bluff or villain is very tricky and competent.

Or goofy crazy loony

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09-03-2020 , 06:49 AM

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Pouled

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I don't understand why you didn't bet the flop.
It seems like you always want to slowplay

In blind vs blind situations with wide ranges you have to protect your equity ( even more with a crappy top pair). There are a TON of hands that will call and you can narrow villain's range getting to the turn/river

River raises from recreational are pretty much always value. Do you beat some of that value?

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09-03-2020 , 08:37 AM

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kwokc

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Originally Posted by Pouled

yeah ur right still need to adjust my shortstack play i usually play cash 100 bb

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09-03-2020 , 02:58 PM

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lucas93frank

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Probably open raise preflop, but I don't necessarily mind a limp there either.
But I'm not checking back the flop, I really don't see the point. I want to start putting some money in the pot and get some value there, and also dictate the way this hand is gonna be played myself.
That being said, if you bet the flop, then you don't find yourself in that position where villain leads the turn and makes it awkward to play from here on.
So, since we checked back the flop, then we flat call ott and definitely call otr, since we've underplayed our hand massively.

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09-07-2020 , 10:13 PM

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NotAlias

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Sigh call on river, your two pair is pretty nutted but definitely expect villian to show up with some flushes.

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09-08-2020 , 10:13 PM

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killer_kill

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Just so people know this is what 70% is (not even "80-90%")....

22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J2s+, T2s+, 93s+, 84s+, 74s+, 63s+, 53s+, 43s, A2o+, K2o+, Q3o+, J5o+, T6o+, 96o+, 86o+, 76o

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