PokerStars - 100/200 Ante 25 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

UTG: 11.47 BB (VPIP: 24.10, PFR: 15.85, 3Bet Preflop: 3.70, Hands: 83)
UTG+1: 14.12 BB (VPIP: 75.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
MP: 19.19 BB (VPIP: 46.67, PFR: 3.33, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 31)
MP+1: 12.51 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP+2: 22.62 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
CO: 33.54 BB (VPIP: 17.39, PFR: 8.70, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
Hero (BTN): 46.28 BB
SB: 7.49 BB (VPIP: 7.23, PFR: 6.25, 3Bet Preflop: 6.06, Hands: 83)
BB: 45.32 BB (VPIP: 14.46, PFR: 10.84, 3Bet Preflop: 3.57, Hands: 83)

9 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.62 BB) Hero has Qs 8c
fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 1 BB, fold, BB checks

Flop : (3.62 BB, 2 players) 9s As 2s
BB checks, Hero bets 1.81 BB, BB raises to 6.67 BB, Hero raises to 45.16 BB and is all-in, BB calls 37.52 BB and is all-in

Just felt I had fold equity and also the correct price if I got it all in. Was flatting the better option but then if I miss the turn I'm in a mess. First post for a long time and been having a world of pain with the converter so apologies if this is a mess.

did u openlimp the btn?

Yes I did

raise pre,

either c/c or b/c flop

Fold pre ans dont limp the BTN. If you open and SB shoves you are priced in to call and with Q8o you're not going to be happy calling, so just dump it pre

What is your reason for not raising the button instead? I think in tournaments, it is fine to limp the button at times, but generally this would be a more advanced line for someone who is an excellent post flop player.

Since Q8o doesn't play particularly well post flop, you would probably fare much better grabbing fold equity early in the hand by raising the button.

As for the flop, what is your reason for 3-betting? I understand that you think you had fold equity, but what is that based on? What type of player is this? What is their range when they check/raise you?

These questions are important to answer before we can fairly assess whether or not this was a line that is far too aggressive or not.

I love the fact that the thread question asks about being too aggressive but hero starts the hand by open limping the button with Q8o. That's the polar opposite of aggression.

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raise pre and check back flop.

Ouch! Everyone else has covered the preflop limp issue, so let's look more closely at the flop action, processing the information that's coming at us. Preflop - we know nothing about Villain's hand. He has, quite literally, any two cards. Initial flop action - Villain checks. We still know nothing about his hand. Then . . . Villain check-raises, overbetting the pot!

Time to take a deep breath and think. At this level, I'm rating a bluff as a 10% prospect, if that. It's far more likely that Villain has something good enough to beat a possible Ax. Villain wants to build a huge pot, and doesn't mind the sizable risk of losing Hero if Hero has nothing.

The most likely hands that fit this profile (and merited only a limp preflop), are 22, 92 and two small spades. If Villain has a made flush already, he's not folding to anything. He does want to charge Hero a lot of money to chase a flush draw with a better hole card.

In all of these situations, our equity isn't as good as we'd like. We don't have the classic 35% on a flush draw. If Villain has a set or two pair, he has redraws to a boat, even if we hit our flush. If Villain has two small spades, there are only 7 spades left in the deck, not 9. Either way, we've got only 25% to 28% equity.

Not only are we a serious dog, we've got very little fold equity against any of those. Making matters worse, we come into this hand with the No. 2 stack against what's probably a soft field. Why would we want to gamble all our chips against the only guy who can bust us out, this early in the tournament?

Fold to the check-raise and move on.

Limping the button removes a lot of strong aces from your range, so you don't rep anything except spade draws, 99s and 22s so you have a lot of bluffs here. So bluffing this flop with almost 0 equity is bad, also once he reraises I think the got to shut down.