What should we be doing with AK in this spot?

Often i play these spots terribly and either shove the 100bbs in, which may not be so bad since i can get called by worse very often at the very low limits but i'm sure most would agree with isolating but to what amount, are you Cbetting when you miss against one caller?

PokerStars - 25/50 Ante 6 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 4,767 (VPIP: 23.53, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
Hero (BB): 4,832
UTG: 4,932 (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
UTG+1: 4,749 (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 8.70, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 48)
MP: 4,938 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
MP+1: 4,823 (VPIP: 56.25, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 16)
MP+2: 4,994 (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
CO: 4,401 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
BTN: 11,671 (VPIP: 77.78, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 28.57, Hands: 9)

9 players post ante of 6, SB posts SB 25, Hero posts BB 50

Pre Flop: (pot: 129) Hero has A K

UTG raises to 229, fold, MP calls 229, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls 229, fold, [color=red]Hero ??

Raise it up to around 1100. Reluctantly call a shove from the UTG player.

Flop play will be very board dependent. Try to think of the narrow ranges your opponent would bet call utg with and how those would react to a flop lead from you. Sometimes you will just not be able to put in any more chips profitably.

I think the general rule is your normal raise + 1bb for every limper so id 3.5 - 4x his amount then add on each callers amount, so id raise to like 1200 - 1374 or so

Press Pot, C flop, easy game.

But then i am putting in a 1/3 of my stack when i am OOP with a hand that i will miss around 65% of the time

Yeah, but they fold sometimes too and likely you'll have a range advantage negating you being OOP.

What limpers? What the F### are you discussing.
Please read the OP right!
uTG is raising more than 4X...

A pot size raise is last bet x3 + money in the pot
(229*3) + 129 (blinds) + 458= 1274
A little more because you are OOP + the 50 that you already have in the pot. I'd say around 1400 is ok

I'd leaning more towards a Shove here, because of the OOP factor. It will be difficult to navigate postflop.
It's high variance for sure, if you have a proper bankroll its ok.

You can flat and lose EV for sure, it's less risky but sometimes you will flop TPTK and stack a weaker ace.

Shouldn't this be a reraise almost always? I mean if you call, the issue here is it gets multiway and then you give players that have hands like pocket pairs and suited connectors to flop big on you. Such as if they hit set or 2 pair. When an ace hits, you almost always have the best hand unless someone hit 2 pair or set. I mean say you call and flop comes like K 8 7, yes you have tptk but someone can have set or 2pair etc.


Yea you can stack a weaker ace but they could also hit 2 pair and its pretty hidden. Isn't the purpose of ak and aq and aj to thin the field? I mean say you raise preflop and get 6 callers. I mean i dont like that because if you flop tptk, unless you have someone paying you off with a worst ace when flopping top pair, someone else can easily flop a set or 2 pair etc.

You can also just fold preflop as well. I know this will riddle someone's brain but basically the reasons you listed are why to not play hands we don't wanna stack off on the flop for big raises vs multiple people.