Ignition $10
(still far from the money)
(no read on vill)


HERO(42bb) opens 2x UTG with JJ, UTG1(27bb) 3bets to 7.5x, folds back around to Hero.


Seems pretty obvious that vill wants to GII yet elected not to take the easy shove, usually indicating a premium hand.

Thoughts on GII vs. Folding here?

Even if we give him TT+,AQ+ which is generous (he is proly tighter) I think we are behind

Hey wow... you still laying down even though it's JJ 27bb effective at game speed? I don't think I could do it so maybe I have a leak.

agreed. he prob shoves AQ+ right away, but 3-bets with premium pairs trying to keep worse pairs. we are most likely behind.

I really hope I would in game, if this is FR his range I feel is super narrow because of the positions.

As cizixap mentions AQ+ is usually shoving with this stack so it looks really strong

3bet is too big for someone who is looking for a call with AA and KK. I guess he's more looking for a fold right away. AQ is clearly in his range especially in these tournaments as long with AK.

Far from the money recs tend to do that with any kind of broadway hands. Aces and Kings usually 3bets smaller (more like 5-6BB). Looks more like a hand that wants you to fold right away and paradoxally does not shove and would not fold to a shove...

I would call and see the flop or jam depending on the table dynamic.

What range are you assigning v?

C'mon. Everyone knows that AQ+ should shove preflop with this stack size. if your 3-bet get called, you should look for shoving anyways because of SPR. But the flop is not always favorable to you, so you better have some fold equity preflop and shoving achieves exactly that.

I agree with you on that but that doesn't mean that people do that especially in the 10$ tourneys.

Just saying 3betting x3.75 in position doesn't look like AA and KK to me. It looks more like someone wanting to end the pot right now. I would cap the range of villain to QQ.

Though you will see sometimes people doing that with AA and KK but it remains much scarcer than people making it x2 to x3 with these hands.

I am currently playing in $1.50 SnG's and people are doing it all the time. It's just one of fundamentals that everyone aware of imho.

This would seem like a shove or fold situation to me and in most cases where I have a shove or fold with JJ, I opt for a fold.

They could have an underpair. If I had 99 - TT for example, I might put you on AK or some pocket pair, with you raising UTG. If you have AK, I'd prefer to see a flop and jam a "good looking" one, giving you a couple less cards to hit outs vrs a pre flop flip. Also, a smaller raise lets me fold if you shove a possible overpair.

So, JJ against AK/AQ I'd want to shove for folds ideally (the race edge is so small) and I'd want TT/99 to call a shove pre since its the best way to have them play for stacks (flops, turns and rivers get yucky in 99 vrs JJ hands.

So, if I am playing, I am shoving, but, I think far too often I am close to 50/50, or even 20/80 dog and with such a large stack I'd just give up the couple bigs I'd raised and look to use my chips more tactically against weaker plays.