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Is this ever a bluff or worse value hand? Is this ever a bluff or worse value hand?

01-16-2018 , 04:36 AM
This is a second hand from my session and I think I played this really poorly, so please let me know what do you think. It is kind of early in the tournament, but I got some cards at the beginning so I have about 132BBs and average stack is about 8,5K. Here I am in the small blind with 58h and I was fairly active and got about 80hands on each player in the pot. HJ limps, he is 35/5/49/9,1 3bet in 77 hands, and he is the relevant villain in this hand. I got a great flop as you can see and decide to donk bet it with about 40% pot bet which villain and button called. I donkbet here cause I am trying to build the pot in case I hit my hand and this flop is good for my range as I can have pretty much anythink on this flop without top set considering the price I was getting preflop, cause 77 I would raise for value preflop. When I get called here, I think I am behind against anybody, but I discard any sets and two pairs from their ranges, cause I would think that they would raise this to protect their hand and get some value from the draws.

When I hit my flush on the turn, I donkbet again for about 40% pot and now villain raises and raises very big. I am lost and donīt know what to do, cause his line looks incredibly strong. Cause villain limps almost his entire range, he could have the nut flush, and some sets, or maybe a gutter and nut flush draw. Cause I donīt know what to do, I just called. Would you get it in or would you play it is I do and just call? What about the donk bet, I wanted to get value from my flush and cause I donk bet flop, I thought it was fine to do it again, was it a mistake?

River pairs the board and I check and villain bets pot and leaves himself only about 25bbs, so now I am completly lost and donīt know what to do. Villains line looks incredibly strong to me, so I folded. What would you do? Would you ever fold here to this villain? What range could he have here, is he ever bluffing here? Thanks for your input, cause I am still confused.


    Poker Stars, $2 Buy-in (75/150 blinds, 15 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37929042

    MP1: 3,670 (24.5 bb)
    MP2: 5,000 (33.3 bb)
    MP3: 19,095 (127.3 bb)
    CO: 4,030 (26.9 bb)
    BTN: 8,740 (58.3 bb)
    Hero (SB): 19,788 (131.9 bb)
    BB: 4,325 (28.8 bb)
    UTG+1: 9,150 (61 bb)
    UTG+2: 6,774 (45.2 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 5 8
    4 folds, MP3 calls 150, CO calls 150, BTN calls 150, Hero completes, BB checks

    Flop: (885) 4 7 2 (5 players)
    Hero bets 354, BB folds, MP3 calls 354, CO folds, BTN calls 354

    Turn: (1,947) T (3 players)
    Hero bets 779, MP3 raises to 4,284, BTN folds, Hero calls 3,505

    River: (10,515) 4 (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP3 bets 10,515, Hero folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: 10,515 pot
    Final Board: 4 7 2 T 4
    MP3 mucked and won 10,515 (5,712 net)
    Hero mucked 5 8 and lost (-4,803 net)



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    01-16-2018 , 03:24 PM
    Please don't take this as advise Ovii. I'd like to comment however to see if i get anywhere close to being right but wait to see what those who know better say

    I think that being at the start of the tournament and being in a multiway, against 3 other players, you do not want to be building a big pot here. I think completing is ok because of the great odds you are getting, but I don't like leading here on the flop (I don't like donking at all tho, so what would I know ) because you are building a pot with a hand that could be crushed against a higher FD. I think that a better line would be to X/call the flop, and see what the turn brings. When the heart comes on the turn, completing your flush, I think you may still want to play this conservatively at this stage of the game, x/calling rather than leading. Lets see what the poo-bahs say...
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    01-17-2018 , 03:56 AM
    You are right, I overplayed my hand and got punished. Should have taken the line x/c, x/c, x/c. Thanks for your reply.
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