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Originally Posted by killer_kill
We don't have a range advantage since co can have AA and def AK. People shouldn't be 4b when they're a billion blinds deep. Esp when it's hard to balance it. Since we can't have 22/33 and they can it's ok to slow down. As I said more of our ranges misses and checks and some is ok (ak/aq) and we have aces and then tt-kk and maybe sometimes KQs if we wanna be looser pre. So most our range wants to check so we can sometimes check our AQ and sometimes bet them. If we bet we should go smaller tho.
I definitely agree that we should bet smaller on this board. I don't agree that people shouldn't 4-bet when they are deep though, especially when there is a raise and a 3-bet in front of you. If you have a population read that people like cold calling 3-bets with strong hands then I concede your point, but CO should absolutely 4-bet AK and AA.
A 4-bet range can also easily be balanced with hands like AQs-ATs and KQs. Calling with AA would be pretty bad here because you allow the UTG player to see a flop cheaply and increase the chances your aces will be cracked multiway. As well you lose a bunch of value when you call AA instead of 4-betting since by 4-betting you put more money into the pot with the preflop nuts. I'm not saying CO never calls the 3-bet with AA and AK, I'm saying it would be a big mistake if they did.
I just think by checking this board we miss out on a ton of value from weaker Ax and underpairs that the CO and UTG player mostly have. As well in multiway pots protecting your equity is more important since the two players combined ranges have more equity against you. Checking on this board also doesn't induce many bluffs since the board is super dry and people don't bluff very often in multiway pots. Also, neither CO or UTG should technically have 22 or 33 in their range if they're playing good poker since those hands are too weak to open from early position and too weak to cold call a 3-bet with.