$10 - $6K GTD


UTG+1: 55.09 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 5.56, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
MP: 67.03 BB (VPIP: 55.56, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
MP+1: 41.57 BB (VPIP: 27.78, PFR: 5.56, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
MP+2: 141.97 BB (VPIP: 15.79, PFR: 5.26, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 19)
Hero (CO): 54.33 BB
BTN: 67.83 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
SB: 65.67 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
BB: 66.67 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
UTG: 112.84 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 A

fold, UTG+1 raises to 3.5 BB, MP calls 3.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 3.5 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (12 BB, 3 players) J J 3
UTG+1 checks, MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: (12 BB, 3 players) 6
UTG+1 bets 2.16 BB, MP calls 2.16 BB, Hero raises to 9.33 BB, UTG+1 calls 7.17 BB, fold

River: (32.83 BB, 2 players) Q
UTG+1 checks,


I know prob not great call preflop, but V's behind me weren't 3!, so felt IP with 55bb stack A8s could be profitable as a call. Feel free to critique that.

So on turn, it was just my read at the time that I didn't think UTG V is betting so small 1/6 pot with decently deep stack sizes with Jx and I block AJ. Really felt like middle pair or maybe cautiously higher pair. MP V of course has some nutted stuff but a heck of a lot of small-mid pairs, maybe even a random Ax.

My range should contain a lot of different Jx and I would play Jx just like this.

1) Agree with turn aggression?
2) As played, follow threw on river?

folding pre.

i don't hate the play OTT i think it should be a bit bigger tho 10-12bb

The whole hand is a mess. Fold pre. Stop bluffing schools of fish with strong ("capped") ranges.

Every decision point you made appears to be opposite from what you were supposed to do.

Preflop: fold. This is ok to call if the stacks were a little deeper, but combined with the raise size and medium stacks, this is a fold.

Flop: Stabbing at a paired board orphan pot with BDFD would be your opportunity to take control and win this hand. Bet the flop when they check to you. if anything, that is one of the benefits for calling in position without proper implied odds preflop.

Turn: When there is bet call in front, now you fold. Checking flop and raising turn has no merit at all. What is the story you are attempting to tell?

(I know you mentioned you would play Jx the same way. But that is unrealistic for you to think that your opponents think that you think that. It is not what you would do, but rather what do they think you would do with a monster. Most people bet and do not attempt to fancy play their value hands. Fancy play is a deception to make them think you do not have a monster. So you were running a deception fancy play line hoping your opponents would see through the deceptive line this time, because this time you really didn't have Jx. Sounds logical to me.)

River: What is the range you put him on. He opened from EP, delayed c-bet and called the raise. Granted if you check, he is probably turning over a pair. The thing is at this level, I don't think you can get him to fold a pair here. Even 99 would hero call.

your Hand has no Showdown value and there aren't too many Hands you can beat if you check behind (T9s, 98s, A5/4s...);

he has 100bb left behind while you have about 40bb and 30+ are in the pot; after the called your check raise on the turn, which Hands would he fold on the river?

i don't think the call pre was bad, but rather bet the flop than check raise the turn with air and no draw.

Yes, I got a little aggro at the lower stakes, which is generally burning money. Agreed there. But, as played on river, one thing to consider, despite lol sample size, was UTG was playing on the tighter side especially compared to how the field usually plays in these tournies.

Nonsimple mentioned V's ranges were "strong" capped. Not sure I agree with this and its honestly a oxymoron in itself. V range mostly consist of mid pairs and higher. Occasionally he plays jx like this but I block AJ and the Q on the river blocks QJ. My range consists of all J's, 33, 66. I agree, players at these limits don't think, "what is V's range??", but they should have at least an intuitive sense that I have a ton of Jx in my range and also they intuitively pick up that in a 3 way pot its more likely someone has Jx vs. HU.

So ultimately what I am getting at, as played, would it make sense for a river shove?

no, i dont think you have enough fold equity to bluff him off his Hand and you would feel really stuipd if he snap calls you

check behind and Keep your 40bb

If I had a J I'd cbet, but the size would be not far off this guys size. I've seen nits go bananas it's great.

I would 3bet pre about 20% (bunched around the times we have a winning image and PFR has raise folded pre in the past.)

The rest of the times I fold this.

Other guy up there wrote some good points about why you should do the opposite at varioua points in the hand.

I know you want to exploit their weakness but an A is a bad holding to do it with because that's a card we want V's to have.

You will be good a non 0% of the time here so not the best hand to bluff river.

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In my original answer I did forget to mention this option preflop. This is not a calling hand, but it would not be wrong to mix this into your 3bet bluff range randomly.

Pre-ante
EP 2.5x open
MP flat

Running away very fast. These ranges aren’t really capped, they’re nutted (EP especially).

just fold pre, UTG open range + MP flat range has you completely crushed, also remember there are 4 people left to act behind you, it's a good spot to conserve your chips. I would even fold this on the BB

you will not flop flush/flush draw enough times for your play to be profitable, and that's your only real hope of winning this hand

as played, nasty spew on the turn

Thanks for feedback.

Results: I pushed all in, V folded.