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Defending BB w/ QTo - mid stack ITM Defending BB w/ QTo - mid stack ITM

04-19-2021 , 07:24 AM
Hi Guys,

$25 MTT - We are already ITM.

Decided to defend BB w/ QT against SB raise (opponent w/ 2nd largest stack and stealing a lot) ended putting all my chips on the table - any thoughts?



PokerStars - 800/1600 Ante 200 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

MP+1: 15.98 BB
CO: 35.46 BB
BTN: 37 BB
SB: 51.22 BB
Hero (BB): 38.2 BB
UTG: 26.34 BB
UTG+1: 86.4 BB
MP: 41.17 BB

8 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has Qh Ts
fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3.5 BB, Hero calls 2.5 BB

Flop : (8 BB, 2 players) 2s 7c 3s
SB bets 2.64 BB, Hero calls 2.64 BB

Turn : (13.28 BB, 2 players) Tc
SB bets 9.5 BB, Hero raises to 31.94 BB and is all-in, SB calls 22.44 BB

River : (77.16 BB, 2 players) Jh

SB shows Th 2d (Two Pair, Tens and Twos)
(Pre 23%, Flop 82%, Turn 80%)

Hero shows Qh Ts (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 77%, Flop 18%, Turn 20%)

SB wins 77.16 BB
Defending BB w/ QTo - mid stack ITM Quote
04-19-2021 , 08:47 AM
PF is standard.

Im folding flop. Potentially dominated overcards, a weak bd fd, and some bd straights. Not enough equity. I would need a read that this opponent is cbetting and giving up turn a lot to float here. Maybe with the Qs or QcTc I float more often.

Turn shove is fine but close. Villain will have some worse Tx and a number of draws, but also if we are stacking off turn with TPGK+ then villain can put us tough spots with our middle pairs on the river.
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04-19-2021 , 10:33 AM
Don't show results.

Pre isn't quite standard, you're facing a 3.5x open. Folding easily dominated Broadway cards isn't bad there at all. I don't really want to build a large pot in a BvB spot with a marginal hand against the chip leader.

Flop call is fine given the odds.

Turn I don't see the point in shoving there at all. You'll fold out pretty much everything you beat and only get called by better. You have a marginal top pair, which is a bluff catcher showdown hand, not a play for stacks hand.
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04-19-2021 , 12:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth_Maul
Don't show results.

Pre isn't quite standard, you're facing a 3.5x open. Folding easily dominated Broadway cards isn't bad there at all. I don't really want to build a large pot in a BvB spot with a marginal hand against the chip leader.

Flop call is fine given the odds.

Turn I don't see the point in shoving there at all. You'll fold out pretty much everything you beat and only get called by better. You have a marginal top pair, which is a bluff catcher showdown hand, not a play for stacks hand.
Thanks. I thought, shoving would represent draws there and opp might be calling w/ weaker pair, while at the same time trying to get some fold equity in order to avoid him seeing the river.
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04-19-2021 , 02:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Il_First_Il
Thanks. I thought, shoving would represent draws there and opp might be calling w/ weaker pair, while at the same time trying to get some fold equity in order to avoid him seeing the river.
What draws would you actually call flop, shove turn like that?
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04-19-2021 , 04:06 PM
45s , 56c etc. I guess spades/clubs + straight draws...trying to get some fold equity and he might be bluffing the turn.
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04-20-2021 , 03:01 AM
Folding pre would be incredibly nitty - we have a hand that flops well in position against big stack who is likely playing a very wide range - what's not to like?
- It gets tricky post-flop on this occasion - I think we have to call flop given odds and turn is a tricky spot - I think the line is to call turn and puke -fold most rivers if V shoves. but no great line here.
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04-20-2021 , 07:44 AM
Preflop is most defo standard. Can never fold two broadways to a 3.5x open bvb to an aggressive villain.

However on the flop it gets sticky. Having two overs with a backdoor is nice but there aren't many turns you're loving apart from a Queen when villain barrels again. Interested to see what combos a solver floats with on the flop

Turn is shitty but I think we pay that man his money according to your read
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