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BvB controversy: Ai or snap fold? BvB controversy: Ai or snap fold?

11-22-2018 , 04:52 PM
Thank you everyone for your constructive feedback on my recent hands, I appreciate it. The answer may seems super easy for you to find but for me they are not, I'm simply a fish trying to learn to play the game. Future feedback is also appreciated. Here's another one:


These are the results given by ICMizer when simulating nash vs nash: http://icmpoker.com/screenshot/hYFUzS/

However given are stack depths is this a totally punt?

PokerStars - 100/200 Ante 18 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 21.7 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
MP: 39.36 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
MP+1: 55.7 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
MP+2: 42.67 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
CO: 40.09 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
BTN: 23.62 BB (VPIP: 15.19, PFR: 9.21, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 81)
Hero (SB): 30.11 BB
BB: 52.11 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)
UTG: 51.69 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)

9 players post ante of 0.09 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.31 BB) Hero has K Q

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.1 BB, BB raises to 52.02 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 27.92 BB and is all-in

Flop: (60.86 BB, 2 players) A J K

Turn: (60.86 BB, 2 players) Q

River: (60.86 BB, 2 players) Q

Hero shows K Q (Full House, Queens full of Kings)
(Pre 13%, Flop 14%, Turn 5%)
BB shows A A (Full House, Aces full of Queens)
(Pre 87%, Flop 86%, Turn 95%)
BB wins 60.86 BB

Last edited by IHitBTNS; 11-22-2018 at 05:06 PM.
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11-22-2018 , 06:23 PM
Nothing wrong with bringing it in from the SB with KQo. But as a rule, I would say that calling off stacks to a big all-in with that hand is a bad move. You need a big Ace or a pocket pair of some kind to call it off there.

If I had the 50bbs and he had the 30bb's I might call it off with KQ suited, but only if I had a read on the villain that suggested he was pushing too wide, for instance he might have come over the top of my small blind plays a couple of times previously.
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11-22-2018 , 08:15 PM
Generally, people don’t risk 30BB without the goods even in the blinds. I’d say A10s+, 88+ sounds like a reasonable call range here against population tendencies but you have to be ready adjust as this may vary a lot.
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11-22-2018 , 11:44 PM
Size up bvb if you want to go ahead and raise. He has position on all 3 postflop streets so 2.5 - 3.5x is much better than min.

I like to mix in both raises and calls in the sb here. Protecting your limping range in the sb is a thing so limping the upper portions of your range on occasion is totally fine.
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11-23-2018 , 03:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wowsooooted
Size up bvb if you want to go ahead and raise. He has position on all 3 postflop streets so 2.5 - 3.5x is much better than min.

I like to mix in both raises and calls in the sb here. Protecting your limping range in the sb is a thing so limping the upper portions of your range on occasion is totally fine.
I do like this and tried this for a short period of time but I found in the extreme MS the population is never opening from the bb or calling anything more then a min-raise. Have you had any experience with this in MS? I'll most certainly adopt this bvb strat once I move up to low-med stakes
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11-23-2018 , 04:50 PM
Micro stakes is your training ground. Don't imagine you'll move up and merrily learn on the job. Develop good fundamentals now.

Secondly, you don't want as much action as you think you do. If they fold to your 3x open that's a good result with about 98% of your range. He has position on all 3 postflop streets.
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