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08-15-2018 , 11:41 PM
Hello 2+2. I have a problem with this spot. I never realy read about it and I just started doing it recently because I see others do it. But I'm not sure if it is a right move.

Hand example





    Poker Stars, $1.96 Buy-in (1,250/2,500 blinds, 380 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935963

    BTN: 195,870 (78.3 bb)
    Hero (SB): 47,063 (18.8 bb)
    BB: 41,032 (16.4 bb)
    UTG+2: 90,133 (36.1 bb)
    MP1: 64,639 (25.9 bb)
    MP2: 33,044 (13.2 bb)
    MP3: 78,176 (31.3 bb)
    CO: 93,410 (37.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with A 6
    6 folds, Hero raises to 46,683 and is all-in, BB calls 38,152 and is all-in

    Flop: (84,344) 6 5 Q (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    Turn: (84,344) 4 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    River: (84,344) 6 (2 players, 2 are all-in)




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    This was today's 2,20 bounty builder. V is unknown and I saw him not moving for like 2 rounds. Then I get that hand and I don't want to fold it because of the A, I don't want to raise it because I probably should fold to a shove pre o post flop. So I pushed..

    How wrong/right is it? if it is Ok, what's your range on this? I would do it to an unknown V 66+ A8o+ A5s+ KJs+ KQo (I did it with A6o anyway but he didn't made a move in 2 orbits)

    Last edited by tucanroman; 08-15-2018 at 11:47 PM.
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    08-16-2018 , 03:30 AM
    It's not really borderline - it's a clear shove.

    look up some push/fold charts to see how wide you can shove small to big - you can shove any Ace up to 20 BB even without antes for instance- the large antes and the bounty just make it even better.

    Hands like A6 are much better to shove than raise as they don't play well post flop.
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    08-16-2018 , 12:02 PM
    Nice, I feel better now lol.

    There is a thing I need to know about this, I play almost 75% multitable sit and gos, is the same there? I mean, when this play starts to be an option we are always around the bubblee. Is ok to do it there too? I understand it's ok on Mtts because of the large fields but in sits/bubbles? ins't it too much aggresive?

    Example: I use to play lots of $1, $3,5 45 players sit and gos. The money is on the top 7. And when I started using this kind of play I ussualy losing in 8 or 9 possition.

    Extra: The clear shove continues to be clear when we do it against a chipleader or maniac? also is clear when we shove 20bb to a 11bb shortstack too?. I mean with this: I can see it clear when we shove to a medium stack player who could fold more than the others
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    08-16-2018 , 03:00 PM
    Yeah one of the improvements I made to my game recently is making larger than normal shoves in spots like this with hands when I don't really want to play postflop (and when my hand isn't strong enough that I want to induce a shove). Even if opponents know what you're doing it's very difficult for them to exploit it.
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    08-17-2018 , 06:49 AM
    love this shoving!
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