13 left in the $1.10 bounty builder with $220 for 1st. Was this a total spew or a believable line? Obviously flop lead is the questionable part.



PokerStars Hand #184145001964: Tournament #2251028317, $0.50+$0.50+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit

Blinds at 45000/90000

UTG: (562768 in chips, $2.39 bounty)
UTG+1: (2743320 in chips, $9.99 bounty)
MP: (491816 in chips, $6.38 bounty)
CO: (1364611 in chips, $21.26 bounty)
BTN: (3190332 in chips, $45.20 bounty)
SB: (5492671 in chips, $10.57 bounty)
BB (HERO): (1362707 in chips, $17.07 bounty)

CO raises 90000 to 180000, BTN calls 180000, SB calls 135000, BB (Hero) calls 90000
*** FLOP *** [3s 5c 4d]

check, BB (Hero) bets 321,550, fold, fold, SB calls 321,550

*** TURN *** [3s 5c 4d] [2s]

check, BB (Hero) bets 847157 and is all-in

*** RIVER *** [3s 5c 4d 2s] [Td]

You didn't reveal what you had so it's tough to say if it's spew or not.

I probably wouldn't bluff too liberally here in a bounty builder though

Oh yes sorry mistake. Will edit now

I had Js7s

Spew! Absolutely hate the play

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I think overall, to answer your question, it is a needless spew.

Pre: standard defend multiway
Flop: donk bet is horrible. Just because the flop favours your range doesn't mean you should probably ever lead here. If you're going to do anything outside of check fold, you could maybe check call, but given stacksizes and relative weakness of hand this is probably a poor option.
Turn: this is why the donk bet is poor. You now probably feel obliged to lead and thus have to shove on any card that improves your hand, even marginally. You're probably looking at 20% at best when called, and there's virtually no fold equity, especially when the flop draw gets there. Plus, the SB rarely has overpairs.

Of course, I stand to be corrected. Just my two pence.

Yeah looking at this now I realise it was just a complete blow up. My thoughts were that there weren't many hands in the villains calling range on the flop and a lead looks strong. When the turn comes 2s I have to jam as any one pair hands were defintiely folding and I have equity with the spade draw. Leading the flop was obviously a mistake.

Yeah, the problem is the board is so dry that villain isn't goint to make al lot of calls with very weak hand.
Villain chooses not to squeeze pre so then you can exlude something like
99-AA and AK-AQ + more hand depended on the aggression of the villain.

So his range includes some al lot of small and medium pairs, the weaker broadways, suited connecters.
When you look further in the hand he is gonna fold all the air on the flop.

So his range is really value heavy imo.

PS. That turn is really the worst card in deck

Gl man ship it next time!

Yes at the time I thought the turn was a great card for me but now I realise it was actually the worst in the deck! I had been playing for 8 hours and it was late, spew confirmed. (Villian had been quite loose aggressive but bad).

Thanks bud, GL to you too.

I mean you do block 76 but you should be just c/f this flop almost always. The issue with the turn is your range to bet turn has nothing nutted, your aces should be 3b pre mostly and your 6x hands are likely 76s and maybe A6o if you didn't 3b etc.

Flop lead is bad, probably check/folding four-ways as we should be floating less liberally in multi-way pots. I can actually get behind checking turn and trying to jam river if villain checks again more than jamming turn.

Its spew, i dont need to see yohr hand to know it lol.

Noone ever takes that line with anything but a bluff. Sets never do that. Aces never play it that way, not even a 6 would take that line. I would float you with a high on that flop 100% and call you ott with a pair 100%.

Sets, 6s and 67, A2, maybe even 2xs can easily take this line.

Problem is a few of those hands are ripping pre

Not likely.

I agree with desperad0oo7 here. Your hand looks like at best a straight draw. I would feel pretty comfy calling you down with top/top.

Villain just check/called on drawwy flop which is generally a weak play and even a fish in your seat would realize that so why jam with a 6? And why would a set jam into 4 to a straigh esp when Ace is well within villain,s range? Same with A2 which the turn makes it pretty much a dummy straight so why would it jam turn when pretty much only hand that beat you or chop with you will call? And there arent ma y 2x hands that call pf from sb. You basically depolarized your range to air or semi draw. The only way this bluff works is if your image is being terrible at poker.

Is it tho? We have 15bb

Jam pre way better than flatting imo, esp if you gonna do that post flop...

Thinking about it more, I would probably lean towards fold even though it's multiway, and probably call with J9s at worst.