PokerStars - 500/1000 Ante 125 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+1: 25.34 BB vpip is 16/14 and 3b 4 in 68 hands
MP+2: 29.68 BB
CO: 28.19 BB
BTN: 6.44 BB
SB: 22.78 BB
Hero (BB): 11.76 BB
UTG: 53.9 BB
UTG+1: 38.81 BB
MP: 16.55 BB

9 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.62 BB) Hero has 4 4

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to 2.26 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 11.63 BB and is all-in, MP+1 calls 9.37 BB

Flop: (24.89 BB, 2 players) 2 K Q

Turn: (24.89 BB, 2 players) 6

River: (24.89 BB, 2 players) 6




how should've I played this hand? call see flop and fold??? I choose the more aggressive probably more dumb option and jam hoping to get a fold or coin flip. not the case. I only had 12ish bb's

Before proceeding I need to make a hard read on Villain.

Since he is a 16/14, we know he's very solid and his range is strong.
Villain will call our shove no matter what, so we need to assign a range to decide if out shove was correct.
If we hypothesise 66+,AJo+,ATs+, we have 36% equity which unfortunately is not good enough.
I often like to make stop & go play since we need to try our best to make our opponent fold - we don't really want to be called. So, if we have even a sliver of chance to make him fold, let's see the flop and then shove. He is going to call preflop with almost all his opening range. In this case, the flop helps villains range more than ours which sucks. But if blinds are going to increase soon, we don't have time to wait

We don't know this at all. We can draw some inferences about him from the 68 hands we have on our HUD and actual cards we've seen him showdown, but we certainly don't KNOW that he is solid and/or that he has a strong range.

How do you know this? yes we get called a fair amount but there certainly should be some raise/fold in his range and it is more likely he will fold some part of his range than 'call no matter what'

I am unsure what this is. This surely can't be his opening range (since you theorised he is solid and this is a terrible opening range). If this is his calling range, while you are right that we don't have the equity against this range you seem to be forgetting about the range that is folding to our shove which potentially can make this a shove. It also isn't a very good calling range (far too tight) but if somehow you knew this was his calling range it seems an easy shove since it means he is folding a huge amount of his opening range.

For me it's a very clear shove (assuming no significant ICM ofc.)

16/14 is a little tight but we shouldn't read too much into it based on 68 hands.

If we give the villain a reasonable MP opening range that is slightly on the tight side and assume he is calling close to correctly


then this is what we can shove profitably for 11.7BB


I don't think small pocket pairs play that well as calls when your so short so getting it in pre is your best play.

thanks everyone. Everyone gave great answers, and now I'm sure what i will have to do next time. cheers to everyone and good luck at the tables

Thanks for your answer but I'm curious about A6s? it is a higher card than A5s but has a lower EQ%? I'm guessing it's because it doesn't complete bottom straight? idk

Yep, A5s is better because it can complete a straight.

thanks for doing this analysis - it really helps to put figures on it
- however I would like to point out that in order for a call to be +0.43 BB we only need to realise 29% equity post flop - as the raw equity of 44 is 44% against the opening range you give we should be able to do that even allowing for being oop with a hand that doesn't flop well.
So both options are viable imo - the only way we can really make a mistake here is by folding

which software did you use for these charts?
and how did you come up with MP range?

ICMIZER. Of course the range is an assumption and depending on whether he's opening wider/tighter shoving will be better/worse, I just gave him what I consider a fairly reasonable MP opening range.

thanks