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BB vs SB - J9o on 6KTr BB vs SB - J9o on 6KTr

01-17-2021 , 11:37 AM
$10 PKO

Probably a pretty straightforward spot but I'm not sure about it..

No reads on V but he has a VPIP (only stat I have) of 24 and he's from brazil making me lean towards a decent rec but not a good player b/c raise size is too small.

8 handed table

folds to SB (70bb) raises to 2bb
Hero (65bb) calls w J9

Flop: 6KT
V bets 1.65bb
hero?

raise and call both seem like okay options..
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01-18-2021 , 12:01 AM
Think I prefer a raise here. If you brick the turn your in quite a tough spot if they barrel it.
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01-19-2021 , 09:08 AM
Stacks are pretty deep here, so I guess a small raise is a better option. It would be also helpful to have more stats, but I understand it's not always an option.
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01-19-2021 , 03:24 PM
I don’t particularly like raising the flop, calling
let’s a few good things happen

-we can hit our straight for min investment
-villain can give up on turns we miss and allow us to stab/control
-we can get more straight outs and pairs on many turns

Raising has benefits too obviously, but not the route I want to take when there’s some evidence SB possibly has big cards pre
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01-20-2021 , 02:06 AM
What're you hoping to rep with a raise here?
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01-20-2021 , 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by killer_kill
What're you hoping to rep with a raise here?
SB v BB repping isn't as much of a factor as other positions.

I agree that raising can look quite FOS here but sometimes that can have benefits too. iI you hit your straight you can still get paid, if villian thinks you are out of line. Raising and getting called you can define villian's range a lot more then if you just called. You can also get so many folds by raising and taking it down. There's actually not many great cards to see on the turn other then the ones that give you a straight.

I don't think calling is bad here either but to dismiss raising here is a mistake.
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01-20-2021 , 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by killer_kill
What're you hoping to rep with a raise here?

How would you guys play K6, KT, or T6s?


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01-20-2021 , 07:08 PM
Yep or 66...maybe even 10s

in the BB to a min raise from SB we can rep any possible combination on that board except KK
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01-21-2021 , 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Colin_Piddle
SB v BB repping isn't as much of a factor as other positions.

I agree that raising can look quite FOS here but sometimes that can have benefits too. iI you hit your straight you can still get paid, if villian thinks you are out of line. Raising and getting called you can define villian's range a lot more then if you just called. You can also get so many folds by raising and taking it down. There's actually not many great cards to see on the turn other then the ones that give you a straight.

I don't think calling is bad here either but to dismiss raising here is a mistake.
I don't really see how I'm dismissing anything by asking what someone reps. Repping always matters it's just ranges are wider.

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Originally Posted by Captain-Hindsight
How would you guys play K6, KT, or T6s?


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I'm prob folding K6o sometimes (maybe it's a defend I'm not 100% sure), KTo we can mix raising and calling, T6s I'd be more inclined to raise since villain can have more top pair hands and less hands that are likely to have to call behind (IE 2nd/3rd pair with backdoors).

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Originally Posted by bumpnrun
Yep or 66...maybe even 10s

in the BB to a min raise from SB we can rep any possible combination on that board except KK
66 is possible, TT isn't. We have a significant range and nut disadvantage on this flop since villain can have AA/KK/TT here and we don't (basically) ever have those.



If we're wanting to raise this flop we can find a better hand to choose like J9s that we likely don't wanna 3b since we're BB or QJo or a gutter with backdoor equity. I'm not sure if AJ for villain should defend against a raise but doesn't seem far fetched some (low)% and backdoor AJs hands.
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01-24-2021 , 12:05 AM
So I thought I'd share the GTO results. Feel free to **** on my ranges...

SB opens:
AA-22,AKs-A2s,KQs-K7s,QJs-Q8s,JTs-J8s,T9s-T8s,98s-97s,87s,AKo-A5o,KQo-K9o,QJo-Q9o,JTo-J9o,T9o
Hero calls:
88-22,A9s-A2s,KJs-K2s,QJs-Q2s,JTs-J2s,T9s-T2s,98s-92s,87s-84s,76s-73s,65s-63s,54s-52s,43s-42s,32s,ATo-A2o,KQo-K2o,QJo-Q5o,JTo-J7o,T9o-T7o,98o-97o,87o



interestingly the hands the solver most likes for bluffs are our suited 6x hands. I've heard about this a little, I think you treat it a little like a 2 pair draw, and it also has the added benefit of benefiting most from folds because more hands have 2 overs and so we fold out more equity.
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01-24-2021 , 12:40 AM
It's cause a 6 gets a lot more hands to fold and faces many difficult turns.
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