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07-16-2018 , 01:40 AM
Hi

I am new to the forum and recently I started playing poker as well. Can't say that I am winning player, but everyone had to start somehow. This hand should be 8 handed, but since it was like 3rd hand in this freeroll, 8th player was not yet seated with us.

UTG and MP limp and everyone folds to me. I open for 4k, but this gives them pot odds close to 3:1, so something like 6.5k would be better, as it cuts their pot odds to little under 2:1. When they call, I put them on low to middle pairs, Ax and connectors. My QQ's make hands like AQ, KQ, QJ, Q10 not likeable and I am not a fan of limping with AA and KK from early position, burned myself too many times. AK should simply open.

Flop is semi-dry, no flush draws but 3-8-4 hits their lower pairs range and there is 3-4 combo as well, consider A2, A5 for gutshot, 56 for open ended straight. I decided to check, hoping for some weak draws in their range and middle pairs. I guess I was hoping that check may induce moderate stab at the pot. Instead, UTG fires pot-sized-bet, pretty much announcing he has the nuts with one more player behind him to make his move, who calls.

I figure that I am either against a set, slowplayed monsters (which I put in not-that-much-likely drawer) or air here and decide to raise 2x, but instead I go with 2.6, misclick probably due to being drunk, since I was drinking some beer. After MP calls UTG pot sized bet, I am not sure what he can have. I don't think Ax, as he is playing not that much outs with pot that is rapidly growing. Maybe he called with A8, K8, their limps make me doubt tens and jacks. UTG calls and MP folds.

Turn ia a K, overcard, potential flush draw and I check again. At first, it looks like not pretty card for me, but after some thinking, I thought about kings in his range - AK would open preflop, I block KQ. Would you call a raise on the flop that consists of over 40% of your stack with just Kx or K8 top pair pretty much facing all in soon? My inner gambler awakens, and when he shoves, I call. Sad.

So bros, how much did I **** up? Thanks for any input.

partypoker, Hold'em No Limit - 500/1,000 (125 ante) - 7 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

UTG: 99,750 (100 bb)
MP: 107,375 (107 bb)
MP+1: 99,750 (100 bb)
CO: 99,250 (99 bb)
BU: 98,250 (98 bb)
SB: 300,875 (301 bb)
BB (Hero): 94,750 (95 bb)

Pre-Flop: (2,375) Hero is BB with Q Q
UTG calls 1,000, MP calls 1,000, 4 players fold, Hero raises to 4,000, UTG calls 3,000, MP calls 3,000

Flop: (13,375) 3 8 4 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets 13,375, MP calls 13,375, Hero raises to 36,000, UTG calls 22,625, MP folds

Turn: (98,750) K (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets 59,625 (all-in), Hero calls 54,625 (all-in)

River: (208,000) 5 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: 208,000

Spoiler:
Showdown:
UTG shows 8 8 (three of a kind, Eights)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 20%, Flop: 91%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%)

BB (Hero) shows Q Q (a pair of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 80%, Flop: 9%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)
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07-16-2018 , 06:31 AM
Hi!

First of all it was a long time i played freerolls but when i did i recall the first stage in the tournament to a "crazy lucky game". No one have invested nothing. In the later stages ppl have invested time and start to play better. I dont know which stage we are in.

In early stage. Go all in preflop.

But if we think in poker terms, i like the way you think. You try to put ppl on hands according to the way they play and according to the boards.

The biggest folding-spot you got here is the utg-donkbet on flop. Well, if he always donkbet, this is all-in. Nerver ever bets out of position, fold for you. And its a potsized bet, means two things, big hand or big bluff. Calling only resluts both of you to be committed to the pot and the one who is folding later in the hand plays bad. But you didnt call, you rr was better. The best is to jam. Villain can have top pair or straightdraw.

As result, the way villain played the hand its better to checkraise the hand to win as much as possible. But villain was lucky you had a premium hand and the result was the same. Villain were lucky to get a set and maybe he had played the hand the same way on a straightdraw even if that an even worse play.

Last edited by tonylonn; 07-16-2018 at 06:33 AM. Reason: erratum
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07-18-2018 , 07:24 AM
Thanks for sharing some thoughts tony.

When villain calls my open, I think his range is something like 22-10, 56s-AJs + few suited one gappers, 10Jo-AJo, Ax. After he calls my reraise on the flop, I know he does not have large portion of his Ax (except maybe A8s), 22, 55-77, one gappers, bunch of suited connectors and broadways. When he shoves, I put him on this: 33, 88, 44, 34s, 56s, A2s, A8s. A2s gives him only gutshot + backdoor flushdraw on the flop, 34s seems to be too small to play (but maybe it is just my wishful thinking, he had the odds), K8s gives him only top pair that can be easily dominated, I don't see this hand calling such a reraise. That leaves him with 33, 88, 44, 56s + maybe slowplayed AA, KK. Best case scenario, I am flipping a coin. I guess in this hand shove on the flop is the way to go after his pot sized bet + paying attention to pot odds given to opponents.
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