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03-10-2018 , 05:21 PM
I accidentally shipped this hand without really thinking about it, and I was wondering what the best line to take in this situation is? In retrospect, 66 is well within their range, and what calls worse? Thanks for your time.



Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - 100/200 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 7 players

BB: 138.67 BB (VPIP: 31.91, PFR: 15.56, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 48)
UTG: 82 BB (VPIP: 35.29, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
UTG+1: 89.62 BB (VPIP: 23.08, PFR: 12.07, 3Bet Preflop: 6.00, Hands: 118)
Hero (MP): 103.96 BB
CO: 100.7 BB (VPIP: 17.39, PFR: 8.70, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
BTN: 46.07 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
SB: 55.58 BB (VPIP: 27.08, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 48)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 5

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.12 BB, CO calls 2.12 BB, fold, SB calls 1.62 BB, BB calls 1.12 BB

Flop: (8.5 BB, 4 players) 6 J 5
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 4.92 BB, CO raises to 15 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 101.84 BB and is all-in, CO calls 83.57 BB and is all-in

Turn: (205.65 BB, 2 players) K

River: (205.65 BB, 2 players) 8

Hero shows 5 5 (Three of a Kind, Fives)
(Pre 19%, Flop 4%, Turn 2%)
CO shows 6 6 (Three of a Kind, Sixes)
(Pre 81%, Flop 96%, Turn 98%)
CO wins 205.65 BB
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03-10-2018 , 06:43 PM
people will call with all sorts of dross - nh ul
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03-10-2018 , 07:21 PM
+ think we can size up OTF here to charge those draws.
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03-11-2018 , 11:12 PM
You absolutely cannot be scared of set over set in a spot like this (or virtually any spot). Just bad luck.
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03-14-2018 , 11:03 AM
Thanks for the feedback. Please don't get me wrong, I'm never folding, just wondering how I could have played the spot differently (bet sizes, raise amounts, etc.) opposed to just shipping as the 2 big stacks at the table.
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03-16-2018 , 05:58 PM
Don't have to just jam the flop, you can def 3b flop instead.
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03-16-2018 , 06:17 PM
I'm wondering if it's even possible to 3b/fold the flop here?

Seems insane but what can CO 4b shove on the flop that Hero is beating? I mean, I guess AXcc (with particular emphasis on A5cc) 87cc and 43cc from lower stakes V's that don't 3b those hands? QQ+ is never showing up here.

I think a 4b shove here from your standard small stakes V player may have less combos of semi-bluffs than the value hands here. That would be a difficult fold to make, though.
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03-16-2018 , 07:43 PM
If we're 3b/f we should just call.
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03-16-2018 , 08:05 PM
Could argue a 3 bet but I personally like the shove, under reps your hand and opponent will put you on a draw or a scared J trying to over protect. With those being in your range I think you could expect to be called light in this spot. NH
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