AQo vs EP 15 BB shove - MTT Poker Strategy - Multi Table Tournament Poker Forum

Two Plus Two Forums Poker Strategy No Limit Tournaments

AQo vs EP 15 BB shove

Post Reply Subscribe

...

11-27-2017 , 09:33 PM

zahrem

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 156

Final table of 50E tourney with many shortstacks. It was a tight guy but had never played vs him shortstacked. I think the guy can still shove some AJ and low pocketpairs or maybe ICM wise I shouldn't risk so much stack with still other shortstacks in play.
I'd for sure have folded AJo but i thought AQ was too strong.
Any thoughts ?

Poker Stars, $45.33 Buy-in (15,000/30,000 blinds, 3,750 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37877166

MP: 1,360,476 (45.3 bb)
CO: 499,985 (16.7 bb)
BTN: 502,698 (16.8 bb)
Hero (SB): 1,148,009 (38.3 bb)
BB: 297,634 (9.9 bb)
UTG: 451,198 (15 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A

UTG raises to 447,448 and is all-in, 3 folds, Hero raises to 864,896, BB folds

Flop: (947,396) 7

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: (947,396) 2

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (947,396) J

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Spoiler:

Get the Flash Player to use the Hold'em Manager Replayer.

Quote

11-27-2017 , 09:43 PM

RPMcMurphy

journeyman

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 235

If you think he's jamming that tight, then you should probably only call something like TT/JJ+, AK.

Quote

11-27-2017 , 11:01 PM

wowsooooted

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 5,077

Id call, he has KQ,AT+, 77+ in his range, AJ is close, proly with icm is a fold tho

Quote

11-27-2017 , 11:32 PM

JhonS

newbie

Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by zahrem

: Q

:
UTG raises to 447,448 and is all-in, 3 folds, Hero raises to 864,896, BB folds

Flop: (947,396) 7

: 3

: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: (947,396) 2

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (947,396) J

: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Spoiler:

Get the Flash Player to use the Hold'em Manager Replayer.

With that stack that was OK, you are the chip leader and you have to put pressure to the short stacks and steal their blinds and limps, if they raise small you can be sure they are willing to go all in and are very strong, they are just waiting to out last the other shortstaks and make a move with strong hands most of the time. The optimal play is raise almost every hand and if you find resistance just quit it. In that position I think your called was OK but if we see that move from and optimal play you had to fold because he is shoving with really strong hands you have to push with AK and TT+.

Enviado desde mi SM-G925I mediante Tapatalk

Quote

11-27-2017 , 11:33 PM

RPMcMurphy

journeyman

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 235

Quote:

Originally Posted by wowsooooted

Id call, he has KQ,AT+, 77+ in his range, AJ is close, proly with icm is a fold tho

AQo prob still a fold vs. that range. AQs prob good, though.

Quote

11-27-2017 , 11:36 PM

JhonS

newbie

Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 19

Tomorrow I will use icmizer and tell you what it says exactly with that hand in that situation.

Quote

11-27-2017 , 11:41 PM

RPMcMurphy

journeyman

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 235

Quote:

Originally Posted by JhonS

Tomorrow I will use icmizer and tell you what it says exactly with that hand in that situation.

Already did. But, didn't have exact payout structure. This is vs. 77+,AT+,KQ

https://gyazo.com/f78d13fde00e6edcabaeb78763554187

https://gyazo.com/564c1f1cb154bd4796a6801a1719ff8a

This is Nash, but most people aren't jamming as wide as this (99+,A8s+,A5s-A3s,ATo+,KTs+,KQo,QTs+):

https://gyazo.com/2fad08f92db9e1ed313edc8f455a7dcd

Last edited by RPMcMurphy; 11-27-2017 at 11:55 PM.

Quote

11-28-2017 , 08:33 AM

zahrem

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 156

Very interesting. For sure he wasnt shoving that wide. Probably AQo still a fold .

Quote

11-28-2017 , 09:27 AM

Marecki

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 419

IMO fold, even if it's marginally profitable (which I don't think is the case) you could benefit from keeping the shortstack in game in next hands - unless MP is very aggressive towards you.

Quote

11-28-2017 , 10:22 AM

#10

Darth_Maul

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 4,435

It's marginal at best, so given the ICM considerations I'd pass on such a marginal spot.

Sent from my SM-G920W8 using Tapatalk

Quote

11-28-2017 , 11:04 PM

#11

Reedy174

journeyman

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 331

I would pass - 15bb shove is a bit too big for me when I have the stack you had. I'm not inclined to flip for a 3rd of my stack here.

More comfortable doing so 4 handed, maybe even 5 handed.

Quote

Post Reply Subscribe

...