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12-12-2018 , 09:32 AM
Do I open shove or min-raise fold?

Was pretty deep in the BB 11$, 80 left or so. No significants pay jumps..

Lost to JJ.. Just wondering if I'm doing the right thing?


I guess I still get called by Ax worse than mine by the bigger stacks.
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12-12-2018 , 11:37 AM
Minopen would be my standard, you might be better off openshoving though given that it's a BB
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12-12-2018 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Panny1
Minopen would be my standard, you might be better off openshoving though given that it's a BB
Yeah, its a tough one.

Would you raise fold then? If for example a tight reg shoves?
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12-12-2018 , 10:32 PM
Jam. If you're not in love with open/fold and not in love with jamming, ask yourself how you feel about playing when flatted from behind. Gonna be awkward oop with AQ at <3:1 spr .

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12-13-2018 , 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by SHIP_DAT
Jam. If you're not in love with open/fold and not in love with jamming, ask yourself how you feel about playing when flatted from behind. Gonna be awkward oop with AQ at <3:1 spr .

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Yeah thanks, just looking for some clarification.. I've started to jam those spots way more and I like it.. The big stack on the BB is always calling a min raise, and I hate getting outbluffed on a board like 7-5-6 or whatever

Pretty much only AA,AK,KK,QQ who has me dominated.. rest I'm doing well against
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12-13-2018 , 07:20 AM
how about limping? We have pretty much the optimal stack for limp/shoving here. I've seen a lot of high stakes regs do it and I've given it some thoughts. I agree jamming with say 16bb or less but 18-22 it isn't as clear.

Maybe 11$ is too small of a tourney that it's not best 'cause u get called with all kinds of hands when just open jamming but say 50$ and up it should be an option.
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12-13-2018 , 09:17 AM
Min raise. Just because you might have to think and make decisions afterwards is not a reason to not choose the highest EV choice.
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12-13-2018 , 02:15 PM
It's close between minbet - call and straight shove in theory. In most tables you should have reads that allow bet - folding against some of the villains. If your bounty is good compared to your stack shove is better, because for some reason people do the bounty math and bounty calls against all-in bets more likely than reshove, even though reshove with fold equity is clearly better spot for them.
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12-13-2018 , 10:41 PM
What if he was on the button? Which is the best choice? Its clearly min raise correct? But say this was the bubble of a final table... that would be a jam right? The same if its final table and let say everyone has say equal stacks?
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12-14-2018 , 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Paklu
It's close between minbet - call and straight shove in theory. In most tables you should have reads that allow bet - folding against some of the villains. If your bounty is good compared to your stack shove is better, because for some reason people do the bounty math and bounty calls against all-in bets more likely than reshove, even though reshove with fold equity is clearly better spot for them.
Yeah that might be the best option.. Unfortunately in this scenario I was just moved to this table and had no reads. But I have no problem really playing shorter than 20BB, especially in a bounty tourney. (if I have to raise - fold against some players)
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12-14-2018 , 12:18 PM
When your strategy is a min-raise against unknowns, you have to have a planned MDF calling frequency. In general, from UTG my standard raise % is about 10%.

My raise sizing would be 2.2x, so against an 18BB shove, my MDF would be about 22% of my opening range. JJ+ and AK are easy calls and are a touch over 3%, so I can afford to open/fold in this scenario. They are attacking an EP range, so their range should not be significantly wide that I would be afraid of losing equity by folding AQ. Granted AQ might be a small profit to call, but I'm really ok with erring on the side of tightness that I am willing to let these marginal/borderline hands go. In tournaments, survival (while over emphasized by many) has some value.
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