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07-27-2021 , 09:46 PM
Online tournament.

Hero AK Not at table long-six hands

Hero has just won a hand opening with 6,8ss.
Blinds 50/100
SB(hero) 9390
BB 7005
UTG 6855
UTG-1 5940
MP- 8197
LJ 6590
HJ 6900
CO 4900
BUT 6344


OTTH
UTG-Call
LJ-Call
SB Hero opens 300
UTG Call
LJ Call

Flop(1000) A79 R, no
Checks around

Turn(1050) Kc
SB Hero Bets 700.
UTG-Fold
LJ Raises to 2800

What does Hero do?

I will post the rest later after some responses.
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07-28-2021 , 10:03 AM
Raise bigger pre. OOP you really want to punish these weak limps and make them pay to see a flop. Im going 450 or 500.

Cbet flop. You have a strong hand vs 2 players and want to get value from worse Ax and 9x and straight draws.

Turn it a toss up between getting it in now or just calling to call a river shove. Depends on villain tbh but I tend to want to get it in now because I expect villain to call off with a weird Ax more often than following thru with a river bluff.
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07-30-2021 , 02:10 PM
Putting LJ on a range...with him limp/calling from middle position I'd put his range at middle-ish suited connectors and any pocket pair less than 10,10 (would imagine he'd raise 10s+, or suited broadway cards).

Villain would likely only check flop if he missed or flopped a monster (set).

His raise on the turn, to me, shows he either has a set or a monster draw (10c8c for straight flush draw, or possibly Jc10c for the gutter and flush draw). He's betting nearly half his stack, which likely means he plans to get it all in. If he does have the draw, you're in the lead now, but will lose a good deal of the time. I just don't see complete air here. So that either means monster draw which will beat you a fair amount, or a set, which will hold on most of the time. He could also have a suited 79, which of course you beat almost always.

May be a super tight move, but I think I'd lean towards folding due to the amount of times he has the monster draw or set compared to 79 suited.
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07-31-2021 , 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by valdy34
Putting LJ on a range...with him limp/calling from middle position I'd put his range at middle-ish suited connectors and any pocket pair less than 10,10 (would imagine he'd raise 10s+, or suited broadway cards).



Villain would likely only check flop if he missed or flopped a monster (set).



His raise on the turn, to me, shows he either has a set or a monster draw (10c8c for straight flush draw, or possibly Jc10c for the gutter and flush draw). He's betting nearly half his stack, which likely means he plans to get it all in. If he does have the draw, you're in the lead now, but will lose a good deal of the time. I just don't see complete air here. So that either means monster draw which will beat you a fair amount, or a set, which will hold on most of the time. He could also have a suited 79, which of course you beat almost always.



May be a super tight move, but I think I'd lean towards folding due to the amount of times he has the monster draw or set compared to 79 suited.
I agree.
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07-31-2021 , 11:52 AM
Definitely needed to bet this flop. TPTK is not a good hand to slow play multi-way. As played, I can't fold to this bet, it's just a matter of getting it in now or on the river. I lean to shoving now, in case he's on a multi-way draw and willing to pay you off now and not on the river if he misses. I think he has enough draws and 2 pair hands in his range that I am going to have to pay him off if he has a set.
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07-31-2021 , 11:58 AM
He also has A9, A7, 97s and probably K9 for value too. And we have almost 70% equity vs combo draws.

This isnt some flop situation where the combo draw has 50% equity and we are either way behind or flipping. We are like 70% against a range of two pair, sets, and combo draws.

Folding is silly. The question is calling turn and calling river vs stacking off turn, which makes more money.

Last edited by ledn; 07-31-2021 at 12:07 PM.
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08-05-2021 , 06:10 PM
yep no question about going bigger pre flop. generally im going 3x against 1 limper and 4x against 2 limpers in position. out of position id go abit bigger. so like another poster above mentioned 450 ish pre seems good.

folding seems out of the question here, what hands are we waiting to play if were looking to fold TPTK on this board? like others have said it just seems more along the lines of getting it in now or flatting and hoping they continue barelling into us on the river
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08-09-2021 , 10:10 PM
Yeah both getting it in OTT and river is fine.

I agree with the others raise more pre to 600ish imo and definitely bet this flop about maybe 500.
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08-13-2021 , 02:56 PM
Definitely have to raise higher pre, roughly 5BB should be good. By making it 3BB, you're allowing both positions to call and see the flop with the majority of their limping range. Inexperienced players love limping with a ton of weak AXo so c-betting the flop with this hand is a must to get value out of this portion of their range (most players who limp and flat a raise pre with a weak ace definitely aren't folding to a flop bet when they hit their ace). As for the turn, I think you've got an easy call with the intention of calling the river as well. With you checking the flop it's possible this guy is doing this with a worse AX or even two pair thinking he's got you beat. Unfortunately I think you're going to have to pay him off here if he hit his set (6 total combos here), as his range is skewed much more towards hands that you just flat out have dominated.
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08-14-2021 , 03:36 PM
Raise bigger pre, CB flop, turn I probably just shove. If I have position I would be inclined to call and let him fire the river, but OOP you don't want to risk checking and having him check behind.
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08-14-2021 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by valdy34
May be a super tight move, but I think I'd lean towards folding due to the amount of times he has the monster draw or set compared to 79 suited.
You can't fold this turn given how much Hero has under-repped his hand by checking that flop.
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