12 people left , only 5 get the ticket. Im in 4th.
We've seen the villain shove with JJ pre before. Was this a fold or call in terms of ICM?


Hand Information
No Limit, 8000 BB (6 handed).
Hand History converter courtesy of pokerhandreplays.com

Table Information
Seat: 1 nfjoenkim ($133298) Small Blind
Seat: 2 givdamoney ($114258) Big Blind
Seat: 3 pokeraaakk35 ($161601)
Seat: 4 Hero ($142559)
Seat: 5 chicogaucho ($20868)
Seat: 8 tommyclubs ($126224) Dealer
Seat 1nfjoenkim Ante: 1000
Seat 2givdamoney Ante: 1000
Seat 3pokeraaakk35 Ante: 1000
Seat 4Hero Ante: 1000
Seat 5chicogaucho Ante: 1000
Seat 8tommyclubs Ante: 1000
Dealt to Hero
AK

Preflop (Pot:18000)
pokeraaakk35 FOLD
Hero RAISE $16000
chicogaucho FOLD
tommyclubs FOLD
nfjoenkim FOLD
givdamoney ALL-IN
Hero FOLD
givdamoney RETURN $97258
Showdown:
givdamoney MUCKS

givdamoney wins the pot: $142258

What hand does hero have?

AK

@OP fold aces to this raise I'm pretty sure.

Don't agree
12 players left 5 paid - there's still a long way to go - I don't think ICM factor is huge - if we're raising we've got to call.
Arguable that a shove is better - but I would go with r/c

Oh thought we were on the bubble for some reason.

Still long before itm, only one very short stack at the table. Think r/c>open shove>>>r/f

I would raise 2.5-3 bb as well

I’m all in.